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you should have offered to buy them blind...

yeah, he just travels to the US a lot to look for records. Andy Dyson told me that although most of the soul packs were filled with records he had some quantity on, that he would round them off with random records that he only had a single copy of. So some very rare records sometimes ended up in the pack. Are there a lot of people who got out of the scene with these specific soul packs in their attic?

I started to write a long response but it's not worth it. You're one of those "race doesn't exist everyone is the same" people too probably. You should come to chicago which is heavily segregated and a much larger percentage of african americans versus white people live in poverty, populate the prisons, etc. Racism is institutionalized, no matter how much you want to pretend it's meaningless. People who live together and have common experiences inherently have a common culture that is usually different from people with different experiences. If anything, it's totally ignorant and exclusionary to say that there's some sort of universal culture that applies to everyone. Your "it's all about the music" comment is an example of this. Do you really think that a Paul Anka tune that is good to dance to in a certain way means the same thing to an African American kid living in the projects today as it does to someone in England who was on the northern scene at a specific time? There is no universal music that's great for everyone. Here's another news flash: there was a gay club culture in the US in the 80s. It's not homophobic to say there was. Not everyone who was gay participated in the culture. But it existed. Asking how the northern scene intersected with this club culture is not homophobic, it's understanding the real dynamics between two different scenes. Pretending that all races, religions, classes equally participated in every possible scene is silly.

OH SNAP: https://www.ebay.com/itm/J-Kelly-and-Premiers-She-Calls-Me-Baby-Signed-Sealed-NEW-and-unplayed-/110795275289?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item19cbe9bc19#ht_2014wt_805 maybe they have more copies but I've secured mine. this seller (look at their listing) is the exact example of greedy jerks googling and popsiking stuff, finding stupid record collectors exaggerating comments, and putting stuff up for insane prices (or top popsike prices). if this thread existed last week this would have been $400.

I like how the "gay connection" is marked as "hot"

what's an example of a soul record from the early 1950s? thanks.

I think my major lance delilah is styrene, I will check when i get home

cool, thanks for clarifying

can you elaborate about what is pointless and pathetic? I think he's about the connection of northern soul and gay culture, not commenting on the sexuality of random DJs. "gay culture" does exist (albeit in different forms, it's not monolithic), it's not like it's some rhetorical thing that people make up to discriminate against people.

i'm confused, how does that differ from what I have been saying? thanks.

this is true, but lots of times you have to buy records on sight, not after playing them

yes it did play ok (obviously with some noise though). apparently that's all that counts to some people

I think he's just saying there's a crack (which apparently doesn't matter to some people). The record is clearly not split in half...

That opals 45 pic is far from the worst condition ever. I actually bought the worst condition ever record here recently. The labels were 90% torn off completely, the vinyl was trashed, and there was a huge warp and a crack. It was described as "VG".

acetates that come with sheet music are generally songwriter demos and won't be an identifiable recording artist (unless the writer is also a known singer or if the writer got someone else to sing I guess).

I think $300 is kind of high nowadays. The earlier bumped part of this thread is disturbing and I wish I hadn't read it.

I do have some badly warped styrene, but I agree it's rarer than vinyl. I also know that unplayed styrene can sound great. The more specific problem I have with the distortion is that it's a specific type of distortion that sounds much worse than, say, a trashed vinyl record. The high end distortion just sounds so bad. You can tune out constant white noise or even crackle but every time the styrene distortion hits it's painful. The other thing that's bad about distorted styrene is that there's often no visual evidence of it. A good looking vinyl record will generally play well (at least after cleaning it, obviously with some rare exceptions). A perfectly looking styrene record can be burnt and distorted and there's just no way to tell until after you get it and play it and hear the painful distortion. I agree about styrene being easier to crack. But one thing that really pisses me off are the stress lines that I guess are not cracks on styrene records. Someone here once said that they are a product of the cooling process or something. I hate cracks and those stress lines are like something in the middle between cracked and uncracked. It's some weird record collector OCD thing, but I hate those. I even used to send records back when they had those but I gave up because they're so common.

the 45 is still in print: https://www.numerogroup.com/catalog_detail.php?uid=01228

i agree. it took me forever to find my first copy of this, I later got a double and traded it a few years ago. I have no idea where all these copies are coming from. Are they all from one person who found a big cache of them (e.g. that brooklynsoul dude) or are they coming from multiple places?

True, I still would have bought it knowing it was some garbage. Just warning people who see it and think it might be some great obscure and unknown roxsbury label. Also, I was sort of annoyed because I've only ever found soul on the label.

related to what garethx said, chicago was one of the most tightly controlled radio markets. The control went down to the actual stores where obscure records weren't even stocked. People would produce and press a record, and then find out they had no "in" into the market (most often no money to pay off the DJs) and nothing would happen. Additionally, the programming became more and more controlled by the program director rather than the choice of the DJ. Nowadays DJs don't do anything except play what they're supposed to play in the correct order off of a hard drive system (e.g. they're just dialing up track numbers).

no, i bought it for the label #. I have gotten country records that were described as "northern soul". More frequently people try to pass off hard rock records as soul, it's very annoying.

saved you a couple hundred pounds maybe a month ago. now it's saved you like $40.

I like Tammy Wynette. However, I hope Tony Rounce takes the bait and starts ranting though.

Monkey Meeks on Roxsbury is a terrible country record. Do not buy it.