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you just blew my mind. i think i gotta go lie down now. I still can't comprehend what generates these values... maybe just a lot of rich people in England who already have nice cars and want to take it to the next level.

My friend who talked to him would have definitely asked about records and didn't learn anything, I can ask him to reask Dockery about a storage unit. Finewine was telling me the other day that the Jonah Dockery record on Thomas (which is him, from LA, leased to the Chicago label) should be a big record someday.

I looked through my records and apparently i have every francettes record except the kentone one. Will try to scan and record the valaquons for you today.

this record was actually a minor hit, which is why linda jones and the mamselles to an answer record to it.

The tripps on victoria is actually frankie karl and the dreams first record. So that's frankie karl on lead. But it sounds like girls on the background. Something definitely funny happened with that record because there was also the LA record by "the trips" that were the exits. I wanted to find out what the story was but Frankie died like a year or two ago and I never got a chance to ask him. For example, it could have been one of those things where the Trips "love..." was supposed to be Frankie Karl's group but the Exits ended up singing on it. Who knows.

Yeah, in the US they're also called "Vanity plates" but I've never heard of a secondary market for them. And I wonder what creates those insane values. I guess since the plates cover the whole of England where US plates cover a single state, there is less to choose from. Still seems extreme.

I've never seen it but I guess Mike has it. It doesn't have the "checking out" side which is on the blue rock release, the b-side is probably crappy or it would be known I would think. Either way, I would love to get a copy and would pay or trade well for it. Thanks.

whoa, the one that is chu88y, as "chubby", is 50,000 pounds. do people really pay 1/10th of what this seller is asking?

Is that ebay seller a business that solely deals with buying and selling UK license plates? The description says they've been doing that for over 30 years. If that is someone's full time business that blows my mind.

This is one of my favorite transitional records, which also happens to be Chicago. not northern though: There are two versions of this released, the later vee jay version has a delay added so the end of every sentence echoes.

I'm confused what this thread is about, are you asking for scans? I have the ray-co record and I think all francettes 45s. The ray-co group is definitely the same group as the tangerine group, there are common names, etc. But I think they are actually NOT the laguna group (which has a slightly different spelling of the name and a totally different sound), despite all 3 records being LA.

I have a double of the souveniers on inferno to trade or sell

I agree, it not only makes it easier for other people to copy your set / style but once it becomes "known" it's not cheap anymore.

the Tandells is a girl group. The Dem III has a really slow side "lonely guy" and an uptempo side "i got a woman". I like both sides but the "I got a woman" side is very messy. Supposedly Dem III are the same group as the Magicians, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for the info. I am going to start a new thread asking about the history. Were both the rare groove and 2 step scenes based in London?

I'm actually becoming more interested in this thread as you're describing an actual scene that I know nothing about, but I probably shouldn't respond any more about it on this thread as it's not directly related to the milton wright.

I believe you (since you're on the scene), and the jackson sisters makes sense, but the maceo track sounds more like just funk to me. Even the JBs monorail is more rare groove sounding. Also, how come nobody ever talks about the two totally different versions of the jackson sisters (prophecy vs. polydor). The polydor has harder drums and is more club oriented in my opinion.

no, the baton master record is much later in the decade. it came right before the liberty records (which hit with "papa oom mow mow" and "the bird's the word")

obviously the first 3 are very hard and expensive. the dem iii is hard but not as expensive, have seen a few copies for sale over the last 4-5 years. It's so lo-fi it's hard to listen to though (both sides). I managed to get that west coast distributors 45 too (which doesn't even sound like soul to me) but have never seen the tandells on Jam-Cha.

that's what I wanted it to sound like (like many other TK singles that sound like that) but it wasn't that rare groove or two step sounding to me. Vaguely related, what's the best (or at least most popular) rare groove 45 of all time? "90% of me is you"? "Everybody loves the sunshine"? or something else?

I think the Carl Lester is becoming popular now, it was just a random record before but I'm starting to see it on people's lists, priced a little higher, etc. FYI that's the first rivingtons record.

I also find it weird that in my experience, some people who can't afford it like to get the most expensive records. I think it's sort of an ego thing (versus being music driven) in that case. People always say here that there are thousands of good cheap records, which is true, but I'm not really seeing them when I look at the event playlists.

nice picks. I don't do it every show but I play early transitional stuff on a lot of my radio shows, you can check the playlists and listen at https://www.sittinginthepark.com/shows.htm here are some of the sets as an example (just looking at my page): Nobles - You ain't right - Stacy Jay Wiggins - Tears of a lover - Solid Tony Williams - 24 hours a day - Phillips Carl Lester + the showstopper - When you see me hurt - Brent Bossmen - Take it easy - Vim Otis Busch - Can I depend on you? - Jerhart Channels - You can count on me - Groove Victorians - I want to belong to you - Rowena Majestics - Unhappy and Blue - Chex Drapers - Your love has gone away - Gee Charles Spurling - You'd be surprised (the way I love you) - King Royal Spades - Come on and love me - Marquee Don and Juan - All that's missing is you - Terrific! Lenny O'Henry - Across the street - Atco Fabians - Would you believe - Blue Rocket Tornadoes - Little sally walker - Sure shot Furys - Over you - Mack IV Jerry Hayward and the Everglades - Shimmy Shimmy Shimmy Sherry - Symbol Volumes - Why - Old Town Willie Jones and the Chimes - I need love - Storm Majestics - Baby - Chex Distants - All Right - Warwick Lamont Anthony - I didn't know - Checkmate Melvin Davis and the Nite Sounds - I won't be your fool - Fortune Larry Williams - Everyday I wonder - Chess Doris Tolbert and the Bleu Matts - I can't stand it - Odessa Larry "Chubby" Reynolds - The bells of my heart - Tri-spin Escos - Whatcha bet - Federal Chuck Jackson - In between tears - Wand Yeomans - Unlucky - Heidi Corsairs - Time waits - Tuff Swinging Hearts - Something made me stop shopping around - 620 Leroy Taylor - Hey I like it - Columbia O'Jays - Can't take it - Apollo Champagnes - Crazy - Skymac Mark IVs - The tide has turned - Barry Staccatos - Who's to say - Rocket James McCleese - A million tears - Marco Bennie Turner and the Armourettes - Morning teardrops - Skymac Tony Outten - Do the jack-ask - Moneytown Lou D Washington - When the going gets tough (the tough get going) - Outburst Cole and the Grandures - I need you - Chi-sound Sinceres - Oh Angel - Zina Candy man and the candy bars - Be my guy - Roulette Opals - No no, never again - Laurie Jimmy Tig and the Rounders - Small town girl - Spar Denny Davis and the Glades - I love you - Age Duke Hunter - Nose Trouble - Crackerjack Crowns - Better luck next time - Vee Jay Arabians - My one possession - Carrie Sidney Barnes - Wait - Gemini Mike Hanks and the Del-Phis - When true loves comes to be - Mah's Dee Clark - She's my baby - Constellation Universals - Sparkling - Cooking Swinging Hearts - Spanish love - NRM Incinerators - You think you're cute - Soundex Ballads - This is magic - Tina Twi-lites - No greater thing than love - M-Pac Roy Jones and the Shells - Satisfied - Swirl Invitations - Watch out little girl - MGM Richard Popcorn Wylie - Do you still care for me? - Epic Freddie Butler - I'm gonna be with you - M+M Diplomats - Cards on the table - Arock Uniques - Pretty baby - 620 Rocky Brown - Den of love - Melron I also play a lot of girl groups, early 60s on. I also play slower and more midtempo early stuff (as opposed to the "popcorn" sounding stuff above) but less frequently.

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