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I did see the other thread I guess, but didn't make the connection. I actually like looking in delusional or crazy record dealer's stores (especially if the stock is priced) because there's usually gems hidden in there due to the seller's ignorance and the distaste people have in going through the store. Also, if you play along with the craziness and agree with his prices and then act like the "garbage" you're buying is just random, the seller gets on your side. it's like a game. There was this store in new orleans where the owner was so delusional and the prices were so high that there wasn't anything hidden and priced reasonably. His 45s were unpriced and anything you pulled out he would just say like "$50" and there was nothing there. As I was leaving he went to the back of the store and clearly began to smoke pot there. I was so annoyed with that loser I almost called the cops but didn't have the energy after spending time in his crappy store.

Chicago has a distinct "oldies" versus "dusties" scene. "Dusties" is a word invented in Chicago (I think some other places use it now) for older R&B tracks that got played on Black radio. The "oldies" station (the main one, which died a few years ago) plays records that got played on a large pop station. It pretty much alternates between a motown type track and a beatles type track. The only "dusties" show now is Herb Kent on Sundays, which is decent, except the music doesn't really change from week-to-week. I think it's different from city to city. Like in LA there's DJ art laboe (who coined the word "oldies") playing a specific set of oldies that often caters to a specific hispanic audience. When people say "oldies" on soul source, they mean northern oldies, which could be very rare and obscure records that nobody played in the US (e.g. the salvadors). It shocks me though when people don't know some huge national soul hits (like James Brown "there was a time"). So I don't think it's comparable in the way you are saying, it's not like northern soul listeners have a deeper knowledge of American soul music, it's just that their oldies are different and obscure. Of course, a large percentage of the people here DO have a deeper knowledge of soul music, because they are fans and collectors.

yeah, there was a version from like 1980 by Coffee on Delite. it's not as good and they change the ending to be a happy ending where their mom and dad are all accepting which is sort of funny.

Sad news, he created an important showcase for soul music that hasn't really existed since. The reason the stuff was never rereleased, btw, had more to do with licensing than him holding the material back (unlike certain other shows).

I think anyone who has collected for any period of time will have a story like this. However, the worst is if you sold it to your friend, there'll be some weird animosity / tension there and it won't be clear how to deal with the issue.

I think really good songwriting also goes beyond just being a love song to telling a specific story / specific situation. For example, people in Chicago such as Eddie Sullivan who helped write tracks like "how can I tell my mom and dad".

OK I get it now, thanks

it's good that this issue is resolved. i still don't know what an "A to Z" is though.

I don't know what that means, sorry. I'm just saying now there's multiple pictures posted and I'm not sure which picture anyone is talking about when they are talking about. So is the consensus that that first picture is not etta? Now there's a pic of an early etta with a blonde wig.

now i'm totally lost

At this point you're really getting into the realm of doowop (stuff like the squires or drapers is transitional soul, but people are now posting 50s stuff). There are a bazillion doowop (bootleg) comps, I think if you find a series with more uptempo stuff (and not filled with White groups) you would be into it. I'm only suggesting this because there are a lot of doowop records (and that's not my field) so it seems weird for people to randomly suggest late 50s tracks when there's probably a ton of them. It's different with soul because there is more knowledge of the field here, for example, I probably have most early 60s soul group records. Just a suggestion.

link please?

haha. so am I wrong about the wig or did she sometimes not wear it or was it just not in this picture? I'm pretty sure I've seen pics of her before this LP with the wig, but I guess I could be wrong.

the squires on gee is really good too

I may have pointed this out the last time you posted it, but the Changing Tymes has a killer sweet soul side on the flip. The best record on the AMG label (and I collect the label) in my opinion.

I think she also took up the white wig almost near the start of her singing career

I always thought the brothers of soul were some of the greatest lyricists of all time. Obviously there's people like Smokey, Curtis, etc. who were fantastic songwriters. But the brothers of soul lyrics were somehow more sophisticated, like poetry.

I like the other Mamie Lee records I've heard but DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES buy Come back to me / My funny Valentine on MGM. It's really horrible showtune jazz. Like really really bad. I just wanted to warn everybody. If you do decide to buy it proceed with caution.

I assume you know this, but this is a manhattans cover. Linda Jones and the Mamselles do an answer record to this.

dammit what did I miss?

oh yeah, there was one on ebay recently, with a starting bid of $500. It put me off but I put in a bid near the start and it went higher.

dammit, was it on ebay? still need that, I don't know why it's so much rarer than the other clown 45s. I have a bunch of their optimum 45s, I have to check if I have that one.

one or all of the following: a) it was mislisted with no category information at all b) it was trashed (but this record usually shows up that way) c) it's a mary wells cover and not as good as mary wells, although decent d) it's not rare A mislisted, trashed, not rare record, even if it's decent, won't really get bids. If it was "girl I can't forget" I would be flipping out. Still need that one.

I got a george semper rhythm committee in a rama rama label sleeve that was pretty nice. Derek, I got the sleeve you sent me, thanks so much! I will make you a CD to send back to you.

I swear there was one on ebay in like the past few years. But popsike and cfrenzy turn up nothing so maybe I'm just confused.