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there are 7 fred martin revue records. I think they are from baltimore, e.g., from the dcsoulrecordings website. the reason i think the eleventh commandment are from boston is because my copy came from a collection of some boston dude that put extensive notes on each sleeve about where specifically in boston the group is from, the date of release, when he saw their show. it also said they performed at the apollo a lot. Are you sure the jive five were called "sampson"? that is the title of one of the ebony, ivory, and jade sides on columbia. Are you sure they later actually changed their name to that? I also have never heard of a "sting" record (besides the lame dude from the police). Can you give me listings for records by the two groups? thanks a lot.

i had an emergency come up today, i won't have time to scan until tomorrow or friday. thanks.

I think the sweet soul side is what someone should push now in a general soul forum like ebay or facebook. it's a great track and there's lots of sweet soul collectors.

I've heard that the Eleventh Commandment on Chess were from Boston. The Fred Martin Revue track originally came out on ru-jac, I'm pretty sure the group is from baltimore. What are the four name changes of the Jive Five, or at least the 3 that come after that one? After shadow they became Ebony, ivory, and Jade. That leaves two name changes... what are they?

just repressed. certain tracks all platinum reused literally like 8 times or more (specifically this willie and the mighty magnificents instrumental).

hi jean. after like 5 minutes I think I figured out that "ibnofs" was an extreme typo of "infos". what rock band do you mean? thanks.

I remember finding some info a while back that they were from NYC but unfortunately I can't find the source of that info now.

the story with the nella dodds is more complicated than just being a cover. it was a supremes LP cut that was not released as a single. The nella dodds record was a cover of a Supremes album cut. As soon as it started to be a hit Berry Gordy released the supremes version as a single and crushed nella's version. But because of this, her version was sort of responsible for making it a hit for the supremes.

Betty Baker is not a boot, she was the lead singer of the heartstoppers. All Platinum was super ghetto. If you get the Val Martin (who is donnie elbert) single on All Platinum as a stock copy (most are single sided promos), the a-side is clearly Donnie Elbert and the b-side is clearly some other singer.

I'm pretty sure the kayham group is different with no connection. The kayham record is from LA early sixties (actually supposedly 1960), this record is pittsburgh late 60s. One of the kayham group members was later in the incredibles on audio arts.

The west coast (e.g. mirwood) were copying motown hard. This has to be the most soundalike for me. Except for the horn intro, this sounds like any supremes record. Felice Taylor's voice even has a similar high / rasping quality as Diana Ross' voice:

my copy plays fine (awesome record). it is a low-fi recording but it sounds like I'm hearing what I'm supposed to be hearing and I don't hear pops.

I'm confused now. Is this an ITunes only release? Cunnie is this done via your label or did you help produce it or something? Thanks.

even by '95 prices you got ripped off pretty hard. a dealer doing that seems pretty dishonest to me.

haha, berry gordy crushed them into becoming "the dorales". what a bad new name.

I have a photo somewhere, would have to find it and scan it. I think the group is from NYC.

And the LASO Square record was the first single.

The group was LASO, one of the singles was LASO Square. If it's that Happy Smoke track above, that actually came out as the group's second 45, even it was played off an LP.

I don't know about the northern scene or the album, but I have two LASO 45s, I think on MCA. It was a Joe Bataan project, he sings lead on at least some of the sides.

not that relevant in this thread, but since you have a writeup of him... Leo Graham produced the Love Column record on Duo. I asked him if he remembered the group and who they were and he didn't remember the record at all. I made him a CD and sent it to him and he never got back to me. I know he's done much more important things like his work with Tyrone, which overshadows his smaller productions, but I'm trying to document the smaller stuff. If you ever talk to him again, please ask him about that record, maybe talking to him the first time or sending him a CD stirred up some memories. I still have to email you my dramatics question btw. Thanks.

I hate knowing stuff like this, now I have to go through some complicated process of searching to find the things I'm missing.

When was the boot done, where was it distributed to, and for what market? If it was a northern soul boot, they could have done the contemplations instead? Also, it looks like they put in a lot of effort to make it seem real.

I'm pretty sure mine actually has a label design. I will dig out all my francettes 45 later and just post them.

I actually was playing that the other day. I found another good deep soul 45 of his that I was playing. I don't usually like deep soul but these are nice.

haha, yeah, most of his Dakar records sound like "change my mind" and most of his later records sound like "in the mood".