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I had a package take 8 or 9 weeks to get to germany. the tracking made it look like it never left chicago. i assumed it was lost somewhere here. but it somehow just showed up.

edit: it appears you just answered some of my questions

maybe I'm confused now. I think i sent you (ady) an email with info when I had the two copies in my hand saying what the records said on each side, whatever I said there is more accurate. Thanks.

it might turn up, but I never look at pop records on ebay or in real life. I think either the curtom or wand press of the something new says 'featuring terry crispino' on one side but it's not on both records.

I have a clean sherrys on hot but my scanner is broken and puts a blue line through everything (my old scanner broke the same way, I don't know if you remember I was actually talking to you about it at the time). If you want a scan with a blue line that you could maybe fix in photoshop, I could do that.

also the few other times I've seen the curtom record it was a promo.

I have it on Wand (didn't at the time of the earlier post) and Curtom. Both are promos on styrene. The same pressing plates weren't used but they are the same recordings.

true, I think a better thread title that conveys what the OP was saying was "most complete collection". That still is subjective but not as subjective. I think the most disciplined collectors will pick one or a few very specific things to have a laser focus on such that they get really deep into something rather than sort of knowledgeable about many things. There are enough records in almost any subgenre of R&B that you can collect pretty much forever. If you just randomly buy all types of records you usually end up relying on other people to tell you what to buy and put on your want list. When people ask me why I don't buy doowop, gospel, etc. I tell them that I like a lot of different kinds of music but am perfectly happy to listen to mp3s of that music -- for me collecting is a different act than just "buying music you like".

oosh, i had a copy i could have sold / traded

You mean "Capito" not "Captivo" (probably a typo). There is no connection to the Valentine group. The Capito group is from Detroit. The Valentine group is from Philadelphia. They said that Valentine was their manager's label so I doubt anything else would be on it. Actually here is the listing based on info from them. I don't have a scan or photo of the second record, the info came over the phone. Valentine 10001 Why I Love You / Gotta Get Out (71) 4690 You're Only Fooling Yourself / You're Not The Same (76)

the person with the definitive 1950s Chicago R&B collection is Robert Stallworth.

i can record it for you if you need a recording... random info: mary mundy produced that killer elements 45 on big street

second release on the same label but like 5 years later or something like that. They had the titles, I have it somewhere in my email.

I'm actually surprised at this because the a-side "It's too late for love" (one of the all-time great sweet soul 45s) was the hit side. Maybe locally it got flipped over (this happened with some records in Chicago). "Somebody please" charted nationally on the R&B charts.

I vaguely remember something else on the label but I'm not sure. But that's not the only record that got released locally before ix chains -- the grand jury and crystal image were both on local labels first.

This is more R&B than soul (it almost has a rockabilly beat), you could specifically ask people like Greg Belson or Matt Weingarden who are on here.

I had to google that name to know what you were talking about. See, just now I learned something.

Today on my radio show I decided to do a "spiritual soul" set for most of the show. I played records made by various religious / political groups (e.g. the Nation of Islam) and some new agey tracks with a similar feel. There are obviously many private press LPs of this type of stuff but there aren't as many 45s; I think the harmony and sound on the 45s is different than a lot of the jazz-oriented LPs I've heard. I didn't try to play every 45 of this genre I had, I just wanted to play quality tracks, and I might do another mix if I find a few more 45s that fit the sound. Here is an mp3 link: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/6-24-2012-HQ.mp3? here is the playlist. Shahid Quintet - Invitation to Black Power - S+M The Prophet's Trumpet - The prince of peace - Asam New Creation - Elijah knows - Salaam AOH - The answer lies in love - MVK Sound of Naptown - Love is the answer - Naptown Bobby and Bobbie Fulton - Massa's grand baby (got to have justice) - Bobby Fulton Sons of the Kingdom - My story - ?? (label is in Hebrew) Soul Liberation - People come together (harambe) - no label Sons of the Kingdom - Change those chains - ?? (label is in Hebrew) Cosmos Universal Band - Third eye - Api AOH - Third eye - MVK Kalimba - Where is the sunshine - Olive Tree New Creation - The fish song - Salaam thanks, Bob

man, i knew this dude named tony that thought he knew everything

he also did motown LP cover art

I think the people who think they know most everything are the people who really know the least as they don't comprehend how vast the space is. I think there is a period of collecting after a few years that some people experience (e.g. me) when they feel that way because they have seen all the common local records so they feel like they know a lot when in reality they know very little. It's definitely true that the more you know the more you know you don't know. I learn a lot every day. Also, assuming someone managed to collect every soul record available with unlimited funds they still wouldn't know everything because there is a not insignificant number of records that were pressed, never distributed, and either thrown out or kept in someone's home. Every year there are new "discoveries" of these records where someone finds the one or two stray copies that got out. I'm pretty sure even with 78s there are new discoveries every year.

random fyi, this is why some collectors call trashed records "rinked"

San Francisco I.N.S. 001/002 Crystal Pistol - Never Give Up / Let's Live Right now 004 Sass - I Only Wanted To Love You (long vers: 5:04) / Necessities 007 Sass - Birds Of A Feather / Silken Sea (inst.) 008 Sass - Do It / Life

good point, but the osborne guide is the worst one and he's not even a dealer

it was a $25-$40 record, then price shot up due to sweet soul collectors. This is one of the first records that I remember being like WTF? when the price shot up.