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None of this contradicts my post. Again, my point is that a DJ should do a show that reflects their personality, and there are plenty of resources to hear and learn about music and develop their personal style. In fact, many "OVO" people are doing the total opposite by seeking out records that other people play. Where did i say that the DJ needs to talk about the label, who played it first, etc.? The absolute worst is when DJs talk about prices of records. On my show I specifically think about the audience and what information they want to hear. Most are not collectors, I don't say what the label is on the record, and I don't even know or care who played what song. Giving interesting information about the group though (e.g. where they were from or some other interesting piece of information) would probably appeal to someone who enjoyed the song, although the DJ doesn't have to do that if they don't want to.

So your argument is that there are some people who only want to hear rare vinyl while a larger group of people want to hear obscure records? I think those two groups are the same. The rest of the people want to hear the same songs. He can easily buy or steal a whole bunch of compilations with tracks he doesn't know (he can listen to clips on amazon to make sure it's in his ballpark), listen to them, and do a show that reflects his personality. If he has an ear he can make a good show and start picking out what he personally likes. What are like 20 random unknown tracks suggested to him in a thread going to do except make his show sound like someone else's taste? I didn't say he needs to play original vinyl, and he doesn't even need to play obscure records, depending on his audience. I said that he should do an original show that reflects his personal taste or he can play the northern top 500 or whatever, if that is his audience / taste, it would just be a less interesting show for the 10% of the people who want to hear something different. I made very specific points about what makes an interesting radio show / DJ set that are NOT tied to format.

The connection is that neither are playing original sets, which is the only rational argument I believe for the "OVO" policy at DJ nights. Stuff that has been bootlegged has been bootlegged because many people were playing it already. DJs should get their own records and style, which they won't have playing bootlegs or by buying other DJs spins.

i thought this was like a one-time-thing, i never knew she had a further (sad) career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Zavaroni

unfortunately lots of them. lena also has an lp with a horrible cover. i think motown had even worse set of random white pop 45s in the 70s. In response to your second question, it depends on what you mean by "undiscovered". There are collectors who have or who have heard the whole discography. But there definitely are tracks that are good northern or crossover records that are not well known to northern collectors.

On my radio show I do only play 45s as it drives my collection and I like to discover unknown records and it results in a specific format / sound of my show. I pretty much don't repeat songs because I treat every show like it's a mix and listen to it repeatedly over the week so I don't want to hear the song all the time. I spend around 4 hours getting ready for each show (not counting all the time I spend looking for records). I'm not inherently opposed to people playing CDs or downloaded mp3s (assuming they are high bitrate mp3s) on the radio, part of the problem is that you have to be really deep and obsessive, to the point of collecting mp3s of unknown stuff and trading them, in order to have an interesting show. Otherwise you're just playing well known stuff and the show isn't interesting (to me at least). The listener might as well listen to a CD. However, 90% of radio listeners aren't interesting in hearing obscure "deep" cuts, they want to hear what they know. So playing CDs for that kind of show makes a lot of sense. I'm not inherently opposed to uninteresting shows, I just don't want to listen to them. I don't have a problem with other people listening to them. This to me is also the most compelling argument for "OVO" in clubs. I'm sure most northern soul fans want to hear the songs they know and that's fine, they can go to clubs that play that music on original or non-original vinyl or CDs or whatever. But if the point of the "rare soul scene" is to hear new and interesting things, the act of collecting and finding records on your own and finding your own sound is what makes you a good DJ. Of course, there is also the problem of rich people just buying their way onto the scene by buying whatever Butch plays or whatever else is hot. I don't see the point of trying to get records that other people have just because they're popular, to me that's just as bad as not playing original vinyl. A good (or at least interesting) DJ should be experienced and should have gone through the experience of discovering different songs / tracks on their own and finding ways to make them into coherent sets. I never thought i would make a pro-original vinyl only post, I guess what I wrote above to me is the most compelling reason for it. But like I said, I think paying a lot of money to get a currently in demand original just so you can play it in the club when it is "hot" is just as bad.

The original release is on smash. It's the same group as the Georgia Prophets and the Three Prophets.

I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure he sold at least 10 copies. He had them constantly up, now he stopped. I don't know if he ran out, decided to sit on it or if someone made him an offer and bought them all.

again, does it matter in terms of the law? someone already broke the law by stealing it. playing it on the radio doesn't add an additional offense.

I never noticed the connection to the prodigal record. The defiants record is st louis. was extremely rare until someone turned up a few copies and dumped them on ebay recently.

In England it's illegal to play something on the radio that you don't legally own? I would think that the crime of you stealing the tracks has been committed whether or not you played them on the radio, does that make it more illegal? Also, what is a "produb license"? Thanks.

just over 4 years later, quinvy finally gets his answer, ending years of sleepless nights

this thread isn't really that different from the "top picks for 20xx" threads where people mainly post records that they got recently that they hope are worth what they paid or hope they will go up, or dealers posting records they have quantity of. If someone has an excellent unknown northern record they aren't just going to post it, as people take pride in "discovering" a record (which is hard nowadays that so many records are "known" and so many people are looking) -- people have a personal connection to and a sense of ownership of obscure records that they found on their own that are good.

Where was Brenda Duff from and or were there more than one recording? I have a Brenda Duff on Casino (new orleans) and a Brenda Duff on Volume (a jamie guyden thing). No common names and the philly record doesn't have names that I at least instantly recognize as nola. Any ideas? Thanks.

thank you

thanks. it is a stamp though? it looks almost handwritten and sloppy. I guess they wouldn't want to do tiny handwriting on each record though.

Thank you. From reading that page it looks like it should be a stamp that just says "nashville matrix" in italics. Anyone have a pic of it? I'm sure in the sharp end forum there is a deadwax pic that has it? Thanks.

Yeah but if you snipe you probably won't go back and reread the whole description if you spot it early. I've gotten burned a few times that way. I apologize for the really stupid question, but what does the nashville matrix stamp look like?

no problem

You didn't get Bob Miner's copy right? Because I got Bob Miner's copy. His was cool because it was on a 7" acetate, I think most others were on that multitrack thing pictured in the video.

keep calling him and leave messages for him when he's "not home".

Please reread the thread. I was responding to a previous post suggesting that it sold for one tenth of its value. Thanks.

I was wondering how the seller came up with this price: https://www.ebay.com/itm/E-J-The-Echoes-If-You-Just-Love-Me-Treat-Me-Right-Northern-Soul-Listen-/160830503281?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item25723eb971#ht_500wt_704 then i looked on the web and the only copy really for sale is on manship's site. so he came up with the price by underselling manship by for $5.

I like the track too. Even for people calling it garbage, the appeal of the tune to others should be clear in that it has the "rare detroit sound" in its production.

he could be talking about his singing with the serenaders on VIP, was it recorded in LA?