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Posts posted by John Benson
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Well spotted Bri, never noticed that myself - but on looking into it. This is actually already documented on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Jeff-Perry-Love-Dont-Come-No-Stronger-Than-Yours-And-Mine/release/1999487
Always something new to learn in this game eh?
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I've never come across an Edwin Starr on that label either (but do know about the other three), but can confirm the Brothers Guiding Light / Aristocrats was around in the late 70's.
I've no idea why though as I don't recall either side being in particular big enough demand at that time.
You could still pick up the UK Philips LP "Get up and get down" which has BGL on - you still can come to that.
I was also always under the impression it was done in the States for the New York club scene, but can't confirm it.
It would be interesting to get a definitive answer as to the origin of the label from someone 'in the know' - That's assuming they all came from the same place!
The label scans on Discogs don't really give much clues as to whether they are all the same or some just copies of the design.
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Its on the "Bodyheat" album John
Kev
Almost forgot to reply to this one, due to the 'festive season' and all that.
Thanks all
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Fookin' fabulous mate, he was really something else
Was this the version from his Polydor LP "Mutha's Nature", or another LP?
I've not listened to the album in over 20 years having got the 45 so I hadn't realised there was a different recording of it
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I've still got the US promo and the UK Atlantic single - I've never noticed any difference between them either
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FLYING DUTCHMAN # 10671: BRENDA JONES WITH GROOVE HOLMES -- This Is The Me Me (Not The You You) / This Is The Me Me (Not The You You) (1976 US)
This one also got a UK release on RCA
This was supposed to be only mentioning the fact it was also a UK release but somehow the 'quote' bit didn't show up!
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Only got the LP (UK Stax) - yep it's great as Sutty says!
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I'm sure the boot of Jimmy Conwell also shows it as 'To much' - I've got both so can check to be certain.
I seem to think both have 'To much' as the title and the only obvious difference being the label colour
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Got a rarer issue copy in great nick (with a nice B side) at www.soulmusic.co.uk/northern_originals_list.htm
Bit more than £40 though but i thought i'd point it out
I have to point out Steve, that this side is only on the issue copies, promos being mono / stereo of "Thank you for loving me"
"You made a believer out of me" being the 'nice' B side
But you knew that really didn't you!
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I think I've got a least one spare just like the photo
Didn't cost a tenner for both of them either!
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FLYING DUTCHMAN # 10671: BRENDA JONES WITH GROOVE HOLMES -- This Is The Me Me (Not The You You) / This Is The Me Me (Not The You You) (1976 US)
This one also got a UK release on RCA
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I'd say that's about right Dave, it got plays on the US release first, Blackpool Mecca first, plus I heard it more at Samanthas in Sheffield via John Vincent, but it didn't really 'catch on' at the time so slowly stopped getting plays. Then it was released on Pye - I've no idea why they went for the instrumental side though instead of the vocal.
Unless someone thought they were more in vogue at the time?
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That's right Paul the instrumental side was the A side on UK Pye, in fact if you look at the scans Chris put up, it quite clearly show this.
I've a feeling the issues on Pye were the same as this.
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Maybe it's as Dave said. due to it's condition but maybe also that most who know it already have a copy - I have one and know a few others who also have one.
I don't think it's all that well known compared to the other one, which of course is in a different league to this one
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I know of it but couldn't remember what it sounded like. I seem to think I have it on an old Pat Brady tape from the late 70's when he was doing Leeds Central.
Other than that, I've no idea on a price etc.
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Hi Tony,
Sorry but I don't have anything to add to this, but thought I'd let you know I'm still around!
Hope you're keeping OK.
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I've got this 45 also, had it for many years, most likely since the late 70's, in fact I've a sneaking feeling I have both issue and demo copies of it.
One of those blind buys off a market stall somewhere but it hit me with one of those feelings of 'it's not all that bad really'
Not played it in many years though so I'll have to have a look for it and see if it still sounds ok (or maybe better)
I seem to recall wondering if he was / is related to Linda Kendrick who had the UK Polydor 45 cover of Patti & The Emblems "It's the little things" back in the 60's
Anyone know?
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Firstly, nice find Bob,
I also wasn't aware of this 45, never been on any discography I've ever seen either.
I have most of her 45's and all her albums.
But I do have something to add to this:
Both tracks are featured on an LP she did in 1983, it's called simply "Dee Dee" and it's on the Heritage Sound Recording Distributors label (HSRD) co-incidently the album has the same release number as the 45 - 'HSRD-006'
Here's a scan of the front cover, lifted from another site:
Also here's the single you asked about:
For anyone who has copies of 'In the Basement' magazine, issue 19 has an interview with her in which she very briefly mentions the period when the album was recorded.
Tracks on the album are as follows:
Side A
1. Call me
2. Groovin' on my baby's love
3. The grace of your love
4. Baby lay down
5. Rescue me
Side B
1. She just won't wait forever
2. Feel like makin' love
3. Real thing
4. Backstairs
5. All in the game
If I get time, I'll scan the label of the LP so you can see how similar it is to the 45, but it's basically the same as the 45 but instead of the 'Pro Indie' section it just has 'JBF Enterprises Inc' and then at the bottom it's the same as the single with the same logos either side of the HSRD letters
Also I can confirm that 'Rescue me' is the Fontella Bass song, although it's a very long time since I played it so can't comment on how good / bad it is.
More to the point, it's another 45 I have to look out for to add to the collection!!!
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No idea Dave, but I have also wondered about that one!
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Surely it's logical to say the first release was the lower number - #924 and the other release came out later?
I seem to recall it was the 'B' side on both the US releases. Whereas on the UK copy it was the official 'A' side.
Also the Flip side of this release is "Malibu" which is the same as on the UK Cameo Parkway release, (not) coincidentally also sharing the same release number - P 924
See this link for scans of both sides of the UK release: https://www.45cat.com/record/p924
I think this just about answers Bob's questions...
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Nice to find out there are US issues of this one - I only seem to come across the demos of the A side.
Also I haven't come across the paper label UK copies - yet, just the blue ones:
Speaking of 'blue' - I'm surprised no one has mentioned the 'other' version of this song by Shades of Blu, with a slightly different title of "Bella mi"
For those who have yet to hear it, it's not quite in the league of Maxine Brown, but not a bad effort I suppose.
The flip side being a version of Sandra Richardson's "Waiting for the last goodbye" on Dellwood.
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There's nothing in Mr M's book 5 other than the Le Cam 630 release.
But there is also one on Soft 1023 credited to Sonny & Phyllis with "Love, love, love" on the flip side.
Could you be thinking of this one?
I've got the Le Cam release but I'm not aware of any boots, but that does't mean much - specially when mine was a market stall find during the 80's or thereabouts.
I could find it out and post a scan if anyone wants to compare it.
I seem to recall it is a sort of duet song anyway, with a male vocalist singing as well as Phyllis
Dave Porter - I Can’T See You When I Want To
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I have the Enterprise 45, which has "One part, two parts" on the flip side. I seem to recall first hearing this in the early 80's when Tim Brown guested on Richard Searling's (then) radio show in Sheffield.
I thought the 45 was good in it's own right at over 4 minutes and hadn't realised the album was longer still.
Sounds good to me even today!