John Benson

Yes.  The above 2 are different pressing plant pressings of the original.  The bottom is a late 1970s boot pressed up at the same plant around the same time as The Magnificents on Dee Gee, and several others with that same font and label design.

Just to add to this, that boot that Rob pointed out, was actually done around late 1973 / early 1974, it was in the main record dealer's boxes during the very early days at Wigan. Along with the 'Patience Valentine' "You can't tell the good guys from the bad" on Real Soul (Edie Walker) and Dana Valery "You don't know where your interest lies" on Pussycat

I can't agree with that guide being entirely accurate though.

That Carl Hall is on Mercury 72396 and so is later than it states above (for red labels) anyway.

I guess there was a bit of overlap during the changeover from black labels to red ones.

I've a copy of the Paramounts on the black Mercury logo which is a later number than 72321:

The Paramounts

"The girl with the big black boots" / "I won't share your love"

Mercury 72429

I'll see about posting a scan of it later.

I must have dropped lucky then, I picked up my issue copy from someone at The Canal Tavern in Thorne, late 80's or possibly early 90's (?) during the Rod Dearlove period there, I can't recall who it was, but he had two copies both issues at a fiver each. I got a bit of a sweat on though when Arthur Fenn picked one of them up just before me, I thought he was going to have both of them!

Later he commented to me about it being a bargain 

Thanks for that Bob, if you've read the rest of this on the 'wants' thread you might understand the confusion better.

Just to add to the bit about where it was printed, on my copy it clearly states (on the record label) that it was printed in Canada.

The sleeve doesn't state any country at all.

So it appears that there were two different presses of the 12", one saying printed in Canada which lists "Can I flow" on side two, which it turns out is actually "Funny love"

Then there's the one I'm asking about, which lists the track as "Funny love" and - I hope, actually plays that track!

Hello John..... I'm pretty sure that the 12" release of this only happened due to pressure from the UK modern scene of the time. I'm pretty sure it was exclusively distributed and pressed for the UK by Boomtang for Bill Shannon who ran Timewarp Distribution over here......

Best, Ivor

Cheers Ivor, actually, my copy came direct from Canada so there was no UK involvement there, unless they saved some to sell over there also. Neither does it mention 'Printed in England' anywhere.

Anyway, if you've seen the other comments on another thread, you'll probably understand the query. I don't want to spread this out over two different threads as it gets too confusing. Specially as one is a sales an the other a want 

Maybe one of the moderator types can put all the relevant comments in one thread under its own heading - for future reference?

Right, we're getting somewhere at last! 

As Paul knows, the only reason this question came about is due to the comments on Discogs which disputed the two 'different' releases with the different track on side 2.

I also queried it and suggested label scans to confirm if it existed.

Which later I put up scans of my 'Canadian' copy, which shows "Can I flow" as the second track on that side.

But prior to doing that I had a pm (on Discogs) from someone who said he used to have a copy, but wasn't able to put a comment up on the voting  page (to have the 'error' removed) about it.

But once again, last week the vote was asked again. So I just merely wanted to try and get to the bottom of it and sort it out once and for all.

So, it seems like there really are two slightly different releases of the 12", whether one was done in the UK or Canada is another thing. Although with the Timewarp comment on the sales thread could be a clue.

But it at least confirms that both entries are valid does it not?

It looks like I'll have to find mine out now and confirm to myself that "Can I flow" actually does play "Funny love" after all that 

Great this collecting lark eh!   

Hi,

Can you confirm this 12" has "Driftin' " & "Funny Love on the B side?

The Canadian 12" has "Driftin' " & "Can I flow" on the B side.

If this is correct, is there any chance of a label scan to confirm this?

There seems to be some confusion as to this existing...

Cheers!

By co-incidence there's one for sale on here, yesterday:

So what about the one on Gemm with the same 'error' Paul?

Ian Spittle from Poole has one listed with Driftin' & Funny Love on the B side - do you know him / is he on here?

The Canadian release has "Driftin' " & "Can I flow" on the B side.

Also why would someone contact me on Discogs saying he definitely sold one?

I take it you have read my comments on Discogs about it?

Like I said, I don't know for definite either way, but it seems odd that two people would list that side with the same 'incorrect'  title.

Can anyone confirm the existence of this getting a UK 12" release, with one different track to the Canadian release on side 2?

 Preferably with a scan. Some of you will be aware of the listing on Discogs to that effect. I don't know for certain one way or another, so it would be nice to see some proof.

https://www.discogs.com/Sean-Oliver-You-And-Me/release/4383558

I was beginning to think it was his show going on the number of times he's guested lately 

Yes he and of course yourself played some great tunes indeed!

I tend to agree with Sebastian.

That article seems to tell most about it - apart from a full Gold Plate label discography.

But it looks to cover quite a few of them.

It states that it's the Groups own label.

"Blind over you" is a lovely ballad 

The numbering has big gaps though, I wonder how many there are, or are they Amherst numbers?

Oooooh, I do apologise Benji - I missed that bit.  

I thought it was strange no one had mentioned it!!  

I'm sure most  people will know, but Doris Willingham later became more well known by the name of Doris Duke 

Actually, my post gave all the tracks on the album, but maybe not quite as easy to tell.

I thought you were after comments about the album, what the tracks were like etc, a track list is easy to find on a search engine like google.

No matter though, price wise I'd guess somewhere in the £200 to £300 range, going on the prices on Popsike & Collectors Frenzy etc.

https://collectorsfrenzy.com/details/280517496165/GLORIA_BARNES_MAPLE_6006_UPTOWN_SUPER_RARE_SOULLISTEN

https://www.popsike.com/GLORIA-BARNES-UPTOWN-MAPLE-RARE-FUNK-SOUL/110249396994.html

Just realised with all the talk earlier about the Wendell Watts 45, there's no photo of it:

I first heard the Bettye Swann side courtesy of Mike Charlton at Yarmouth some years back - only having the promo at that time, I couldn't believe that side never got much interest.

Picking one up shortly after for around a fiver, a great track indeed. I didn't realise it wasn't more well known by now.

Thinking about it... My copy (US) came from Australia, not America, is that some sort of a sign as to where they all went I wonder?

I'm sure you want comments on the tracks rather than a track list. But as I don't have it, I'll start things off with this taken from Popsike: 

Here's a couple of mine, Deon Jackson - "I can't go on" and Robert Parker - I caught you in a lie"

Both being the solid centre 'variety' - I'll have to go digging and see if I have any others, then maybe we can compare / see if there's any of the dinked ones of the same record?

Right, I've finally got around to scanning the Dutch 45, as I said earlier, it did have a solid middle at one point, but I didn't realise that until I bought it.     But it'll have to do for the time being, until I finally drop on a cheap US copy.

"Please don't go" was a regular spin at the Clifton Hall in Rotherham which would make it late 1980 onwards. 

I seem to think there's 2 LPs by Jackie Wilson where Jeff is involved, "Beautiful Day" & another one which I can't remember.

I must dig them out and see what else is on them as I think there's one or two more gems on them worth a mention.

How about Jeff's other 45 on Arista "Unforgettable person"?

I've got the Soul-Po-Tion 119 release which has "You can depend on that" on the flip.

Just compared the '226' one on Steve's site - now sold by the way, it sounds the same to my ears.

Errr - 'Rings...' doesn't do a lot for me I'm afraid! 

So... is "Praise him" a different song?

Just curious as you said it isn't on the album.