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Interesting thread. I remember this being shared about on facebook in the past couple of years... Wonder which Beatle the 2nd Aretha was for?

2 CLASSIC R&B FLOOR FILLRS IN THE RARER VARIANTS UP FOR GRABS TO FUND A WANT NM LITTLE WILLIE JOHN - £140 VG+ ALBERT WASHINGTON & THE KINGS - SOLD PAYMENT BY BANK TRANSFER ADD 4/8 POUND FOR POST

Looking for a copy of this record, please let me know if you have one and are looking to sell.

Agreed... Best fist

Do you have a clearer image of the second badge, it's hard to find a decent quality image of it anywhere online.

Pocket change uptown RnB that has all the mod cons… £3.50 including post

Here is another article that came out 3 days ago related to the release of the documentary & an image of the cover of his memoir which was released yesterday along with a review from the Guardian. CBS Article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sly-stone-memoir-sly-and-the-family-stone/ Guardian review: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/09/thank-you-falettinme-be-mice-elf-agin-by-sly-stone-review-euphoric-expression-and-drug-crazed-chaos

Comes up if you google 100 club bbc radio, it's listed underneath where the play button would have been. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001q70x San Remo Golden Strings The Festival Time Melvin Hicks & The Versatiles The Intruder Little Ann Who Are You Trying To Fool The Magicians (Just A Little) Faith And Understanding Carolyn Crawford Ready Or Not Here Comes Love Eddie Daye & The 4 Bars Guess Who Loves You Ben E. King Gettin' To Me Johnny Maestro & The Crests I'm Stepping Out Of The Picture Chuck Jackson What's With This Loneliness The San Francisco TKO's Make Up Your Mind Little Johnny Hamilton Keep On Movin' Maxine Brown It's Torture Melba Moore The Magic Touch Lorraine Chandler You Only Live Twice The Marvellos It's Your Love That I Need Carla Thomas I'll Never Stop Loving You

Looking for a copy of a blue eyed tune I missed on eBay not very long ago Bobby Lile - The Hangout on Rollo Records Feel free to message me on here or Facebook if you have a copy and are looking to sell Thanks

I always thought Cheatin Kind was Mecca tune tbf & admittedly only found out recently how rare it actually is because I always knew it was way out of my reach but I had no clue it was played in Cleethorpes until I saw this video.

Interesting, never knew Cheatin Kind was first played in Cleethorpes!

I personally, absolutely love playing cheap records loud & I'm pleased that someone else thinks that Manhattans track sounds great too! Whenever I've put a mix together for my mixcloud, I always tried to put a spotlight on stuff I love but dont get to play or hear out often so if you want to hear some of them message me and I'll send you it. I'm a firm believer of A.T.B being by far the best format... It just makes sense in my eyes, done right can be complimentary to the selections and generally gives room to allow everything to breathe. Great cheap one I was buzzing to have heard out and was surprised cause of its price and availability was at the last Swinton, Fireman Phil played Roosevelt Grier - C'mon Cupid sort of middle of the set. Anyway here are a small grip of tunes I really adore that are probably overlooked cos they're just cheap. A budget Okeh oldie which has a really fun back up vocal and a nice bounce to it that sounds amazing over a big sound system and some genuinely interesting drum patterns which I think some dancers interpret well and has an addictive quality to it. Another is one of them Stax adjacent sounds which I think is massively undervalued and not heard enough. One I've been playing in sets for a bit and actually bought my friend a copy because it's so cheap and needs more plays. Bangin uptempo R&B which has all the facets of a couple of mainstay Northern in-demanders, I love this and can imagine it going down well with the right crowd. Criminally priced moody 70s stepper, I always say Leon sounds like he has the spirit of Gil of coming through him, I also remember seeing a video of a semi recent event on Facebook but can't remember where and it was getting a lot of praise, amazing track anyway... I play this pretty regularly and rate it highly but you have to make sure you get the demo copy and not the issue. I could do this all day haha.

Thanks Mike, sorry didn’t realise that but will bare it in mind for future if I’m quoting anything from an outside source!

I do get what you’re saying but they were literally down promenade less than a half a mile away from each other, organised by the same people and started out with Alldayers to begin with at the Winter Gardens. Regardless of the end of the pier its two venues which ran in tandem that are always mentioned in the same breath so I don’t think it’s a major reach to umbrella them as the majority of the tunes I originally mentioned are all recognised as ‘Cleethorpes sounds’ Below I’ve included a snippet of the write up & another poster from the first allniter in February from Soulstrutter website. ‘The all-nighters were the brainchild of Mary Chapman who ran the Lincolnshire Soul Club and went under the banner The Talk Of The North. She had run a few all-dayers at the Winter Gardens prior to the all-nighter which ran fortnightly and then later weekly. To cater for the popularity of the event she later ran a parallel nighter at the Winter Gardens in tandem and punters would move between both venues. They ran for just over a year before they were stopped by the council 'allegedly' over safety issues of The Pier. but more than likely due to the usual story i.e. drugs. The first all-nighter passed by almost unnoticed by Blues & Soul magazine which was largely at the behest of Chapman who didn't want the same publicity that was raging in the media over Wigan Casino in 1975 and preferred to keep Cleethorpes low profile. The media didn't get that this was an 'underground' scene that didn't want mass media exposure or attention.’’ Here is the TOTN 1st anniversary niter poster from Feb 21st in 1976. So from what it sounds like is between February 75 and the early months of 76 it looks like Lincolnshire Soul Club must have upped the niters from fortnitely to weekly for them to have it on the anniversary poster & potentially why some people have stated it was the leading niter during that timeframe which is interesting but I personally don’t think that detracts from the sounds that would have been played, most likely at both of the venues. Additionally, a guy named Graham commented on the page with an interesting addition in June last year surrounding the closure of the Pier niters… ‘I was there for every single one of the all-nighters, plus all of Mary's other events. Why you may ask? I designed and built the sound system which was used for them all and being based in Peterborough, I also delivered it and set it up at each event. It's good to see so many people remember those nights and I hope that continues. You mention the loss of the pier as a venue - I was involved in the discussions with the council and they actually wanted to sell the pier because they had been losing money running it. Yes, we were raided by the local police - claiming there was a bomb scare to evacuate everyone while they searched the building. NOTHING WAS FOUND, but the drug stories continued in the local press. No-one apart from Mary knew anything about my background as a musician and sound engineer and I kept quiet about it at the time, but I have continued playing in bands right up to the present day. Keep that faith! Graham’ Anyway, it would be cool to get some of the DJs who did both venues thoughts on sounds from both of the venues to see how the policy might have differed between the two during the dayers, niters and between the different time frames… Will be coming up to 50th anniversary of the first Pier Allniter soon enough and I highly doubt it will receive the national press what Wigan has had in the past 2 weeks or so

That’s correct to be fair, Cleethorpes is a town and not a single venue and to be honest my initial input intentionally left out the where and when’s due to the fact of the matter is I wasn’t born & my reply gravitated around the sounds associated with the place which is a bit more fragmented and unfortunately not as straight forward as others at the time. However, aside from the Lincolnshire Soul Club events there were other allniters in the town that ran in the 70s into the 80s and even afterwards albeit not as regular as other clubs of the day that were run under different promotions like After Dark Promotion which also held events in Bradford & Nottingham, East Coast Connection who also ran allniters as well as Soul Time. Tbf, I never actually stated that it ran weekly but below I’ve included a poster from the first Talk of the North 1st anniversary ‘soul weekend’ among others where it also states ‘every week’ on the right hand side but I couldn’t tell you for certain but there are some clues of when these events ran within the wording in the varying posters I’ve uploaded here from different years. Below are a couple of the all niter posters from Soul Time from when Richard Searling played the Winter Gardens & here is a recording when Richard played the Pier between 1975-78. I was just grouping them in together for sake of convenience as a case for the overall Cleethorpes sound since the Winter Gardens initially ran side by side the Pier niters. *above is an East Coast Connection All dayer poster from 30th January 1977 and below is an After Dark one from the 80s. If you really wanted to split hairs we should also make note that Mike Walker attempted to put niters on at this same time to detract from success of the Pier Allniters which failed 4 times before they were jacked in which I’m afraid I again, do not have the dates of, hopefully someone can remember and share their knowledge. On a separate note, I’ve been compiling everything I can find online from flyers, photos of the people who went, badges & patches. If anyone has any ephemera from Cleethorpes niters or dayers I’d love to see it!

I will say this is strictly through my own research online or by talking to people who actually were there as I'm someone who was born waaaay after the hay day of any of the clubs mentioned in the initial post. It seems widely considered that Cleethorpes acted as a feeder to other clubs during its time and although being slightly pushed to the background in comparison to other clubs has lots of discoveries under its belt, with tunes either being played there first or broken there. The following artists still hold association with Cleethorpes either through playlists or uploaded tape recordings: Shedloads of modern I couldn't even begin to list, class oldies like Carl Spencer as well as big money tracks by Don Varner & The Ivories whilst being more widely known for pushing the harder-edged out-and-out dancers like Frankie Crocker, Black Nasty, The Crow, Roscoe & Friends, JJ Callier & Skull Snaps and the like... Personally, I don't think there's ever been enough emphasis or acclaim put on Cleethorpes but it's there if you look for it. However, when you talk about it to those who went, they say it had an edge on some of the other clubs at the time and is revered by many as one of the best. By the sounds of it, it marched to the beat of its own drum and dancers were said to have moved differently, in their own style which I can only imagine is directly related to the 'progressive' sound & pushing an across-the-board format with modern and oldies played side by side. Additionally, from what I've read on here when Cleethorpes ran it was noticeably quieter at Wigan & was the leading niter in 76 for 13 months on the trot. I remember reading a great comment on a Blogspot post ages ago where it said something like 'Wigan had the clap but Cleethorpes had the stomp' which they say could be heard ringing out across the promenade as you approached it... Haha, proper ace. I love hearing stories about the plethora of different sounds that got played in my town as aforementioned there's only so much you can find without really getting on your hands and knees and trawling through posts on here, Facebook & the occasional auction write-up, looking forward to some people sharing stuff I might have not heard due to my age... I remember reading a while ago on Facebook that Mary Chapman's daughter is planning on putting together a book at some point which I hope happens as that will hopefully help fill in some blindspots.

Think it must have been the drugs then if it hasn't stood the test of time then eh

Agreed mate, funny that you've mentioned Bobby Wilson, I got one a while ago and since then i've seen its gone up in price from what I paid. I remember seeing it at £5 on discogs, then a week later cheapest was at £20. Loads of good cheapies get overlooked, all of the time. The only Malibus record on Duke 'I can't stand it' is another good budget tune as well!

I’ve always rated that Emotions tune, still cheap and still good!

Personally, I think Judy Street & Where is he by Flamma are same type of crap, they both lack any edge and just sound like dodgy pop. Is the side i've linked the one you're referring to as terrible or the side Nev used to play, out of interest? The flip on the Flamma tune that I’ve posted is absolute overlooked quality though in my eyes. I will say once ‘Where Is He' gets going, albeit not very good... It does have more merit to my ears than Judy Street ever has.

Think this is a pretty cool little question... Personally can't stand Judy Street - What (soz.) & I've been playing the flip of Nev Wherry's old spin from Cleethorpes & Sheffield KGB, Flamma Sherman - Where is he, for ages now. I don't even know if its really ever been played cos I'm too young to know. Properly off kilt for traditionalists I'd imagine but is a power dancer once it gets going that hardly anyone I've spoken to knows... Surely this must have been played at the Pier & the Winter Gardens??? I think its hardly known cos it has a 45 second intro and a long outro which might have put people off playing it out.

Interview with Craig Charles surrounding the 50th years of Wigan Casino, Young soul clubs and BBCs Proms Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full

This has to be the funniest name and label design of any record company that’s ever existed, brilliant!