Mick Holdsworth

Maybe not as much as I thought - could be that it was just appeared to be elusive at the time I was looking at one 5 years back. As I said, I never bothered to look for it after that, so It could be there are a few more around than I thought.

The AVI 12" with the Instrumental is the B side to a Vocal - the vocal is a remix or re-recording, but the Instrumental is the 60's backing. It has always been tough to get - About five years ago I saw a copy on Gemm for about $60 - I kept checking on it for over a year, but never bought it - It eventually sold, and I've never bothered to look for it since. Cheers Mick

It was issued in the 80's or very early 90's on an AVI 12 inch Cheers Mick

These are the two releases ... S-1002-A ... Love (Your Pain Goes Deep) S-1002-B ... If That's What You Wanted S-1002-A-2 ... If That's What You Wanted S-1002-B-2 ... This Is Just A "B" Side *(can't be absolutely clear on B-2 as scan is so bad) I don't know for sure, but I would think "Love Your Pain" came first (An assumption based entirely on the List Numbers) Scans of the two different B White Demo B sides Apologies for the "TIJABS" scan - only image I could find Cheers Mick

Yes, all 4 Sassy variations are out there. Cheers Mick

It's still there from the eBay listing ... https://www.ebay.com/...cvip=true&rt=nc Cheers Mick

One appeal of the Villa recording (and Kent issue) is that it uses "Double Cookin'" as the backing track. The Jam-cha is a re-recording with a different music track (If I remember the sleeve notes from the Kent CD, the Jam-Cha was a very short while after Villa) Cheers Mick

Two in the street !! If every street in the country had two, then there could be almost a hundred !! Joking apart, it wasn't the existance of Andantes i was querying - My query was if Velvelettes or the Isleys existed - and I think RobK answered that for me. Cheers Mick

You might be thinking of "That's A Funny Way"? "Like A Nightmare" exists, just very rare

Chalky, Yes, Patrice Holloway does exist - It was the Velvelettes and Isleys I was querying - Both have appeared on listings for decades, but has anyone ever seen one. Cheers Mick

Sorry Mick, here you go .. 25001 - Patrice Holloway - The Boy of My Dreams 25006 - Andantes - Like A Nightmare. I remember the Isleys VIP listing from the 70's ... 25020 - I Hear A Symphony Also the Velvelettes ... 25034 - These Things will Keep Me Loving You. Both have appeared on varous listings but does either one actually exist ??

I suppose up there in the top handful would be the two VIP releases - Patrice Holloway and Andantes

Hi Romain, Yes, I know it's a toughie, but I figured as it has been auctioned by UK dealers a few times over the last 8 or 10 years, a copy would surface for sale. I live in hope. Thanks Mick

Anyone with any help on either of these ? Thanks Mick

There's a Connie Francis record on GSF from about the same time. It was an answer version of "Tie a Yellow Ribbon". Cheers Mick

Couple of things I'm after, if anyone can help ... Willie Hutch - The Duck / Love Runs Out - French RCA New Designers - We Won't Know Unless We Try - US Dynamo Cheers Mick

Just PM'd you Thanks Mick

Ian, I spoke to you yesterday and told you I wouldn't be posting anything on a public forum, however I know in my heart that I have to. I've known both you and Helen since the mid-seventies, although in the last 20 years since I got back into the scene again, our friendship grew to the point where you both classed me as "family", an honour I always felt was wonderful and warming. Helen told me on more than one occassion that I was like a brother to her, and Helen was indeed the sister I never had. We would always meet up during the week and go to Pub quizzes (we even one once, although I think the music round helped on that, being 100% Motown that week!!) When Ryan came along we would still go out, although alternately. One week I would go to the pub with you, whilst Helen stayed in, and the next week, I would go out with Helen. We had so much fun on those occasions, drinking a little to much and talking about everything and anything. Always laughing. I have always treasured these times. I can remember one incident, when I brought Helen home after one of our mid week sessions. We sort of 'bounced in' the house, well past closing time, talking too loud, laughing at God knows what. I went into the lounge first and Helen followed, nearly tripping over a completely flat floor at the lounge doorway. Quick as a flash, she shouted out "That floors bent!!". It was a priceless comment, and within 5 seconds she had me sn*****ing and somehow thinking that the floor was indeed bent and you should do something about it. "It's not the floor, it's you, you're drunk", you said. "I'm NOT drunk, it's the floor, someone could fall over there". Wonderful !! There is one other time that I remember vividly. In the late nineties, I was on the door at Bretby with Helen and both of us had to fight back a few local troublemakers through a nearly closed door. We managed to get the door closed and just fell about laughing, I think both of us had small bruises and a black eye that night. For years after we would often think of that night and although it should have been solemnity, we always ended up laughing about it. Helen would always be there to help in anything she possibly could, either physical or emotional. On three seperate occasions she spend the best part of a day each time helping me paint my flat, swap out and fit a new carpet, and then a couple of weeks later pull apart a remove an old suite. We were stuck in a door frame for about three hours using bread knives to saw our way through a massive couch. I was all for giving up after ten minutes, but Helen wouldn't have any of that, so somehow, with the bread knives and a hammer, we finally freed it and got it out. If it hadn't been for Helen I would, to this day, still have the old carpet, the old couch, and the old paint. She was also a great comfort to me when my Dad died 6 years ago. She was there for me then as countless other times. I will miss Helen so much, and have been devastated by her passing. She was and always will be, the sister I never had. You and Ryan are always in my thoughts, and my feelings go out to you both so much. All my love Mick

Here's a link to the Detroit Free Press article ... https://www.freep.com/article/20110925/ENT04/109250378/Motown-publicist-Al-Abrams-shares-rare-photos-letters-clippings-new-book

Here's a link to the Detroit Free Press article ... https://www.freep.com/article/20110925/ENT04/109250378/Motown-publicist-Al-Abrams-shares-rare-photos-letters-clippings-new-book

Rob, It was the Jimmy McFarland I meant - One version is much longer - The first verse and chorus have been repeated. Apart from the two different Intro's, and this first verse loop, the two versions are absolutely identical, so it would appear there is no 60's recording of this after all ... at least not on this CD. I like this new recording, and the new recording of Gone With The Wind is also good (this is the full version, as per R&T / Kent 45) Cheers Mick

Rob, It was the Jimmy McFarland I meant - One version is much longer - The first verse and chorus have been repeated. Apart from the two different Intro's, and this first verse loop, the two versions are absolutely identical, so it would appear there is no 60's recording of this after all ... at least not on this CD. I like this new recording, and the new recording of Gone With The Wind is also good (this is the full version, as per R&T / Kent 45) Cheers Mick

Just got the Album from Cdbaby - Quite like the two takes from Jimmy McFarland - On first play, (apart from the intro) I can't tell the difference, but I'm sure that after a few plays the differences will be apparent. There's nearly an extra minute on the Orig version for a start. I think the Gloria & Tiaras - Gone With The Wind is great. Thanks Lou Now then, what about the Instrumental of Blowing My Mind ... Cheers Mick

Just got the Album from Cdbaby - Quite like the two takes from Jimmy McFarland - On first play, (apart from the intro) I can't tell the difference, but I'm sure that after a few plays the differences will be apparent. There's nearly an extra minute on the Orig version for a start. I think the Gloria & Tiaras - Gone With The Wind is great. Thanks Lou Now then, what about the Instrumental of Blowing My Mind ... Cheers Mick