Mick Holdsworth

Yep, those are the three versions all with images above, two by yourself amd one by Chalky. WIL 190303 WIL-193302 WIL-190203 It was your reference to WIL-190302 I didn't get.

That's WIL-193302, not 190302.

Three label variations then. I wonder if the second one (HXV 175313) was a printing error. The printers changed the time and number, but forgot to change the mixer designation, so then corrected the label to read HXL 175313.

Looking at the sellers feedback at .. . . https://www.ebay.co.uk/fdbk/feedback_profile/davidm3091?filter=feedback_page:RECEIVED_AS_SELLER&_trksid=p2047675.l2560 . . . and then scrolling down to the end, you will find this . . . " EXCELLENT TRANSACTION - SUPERB ITEM - WELL DONE CHAPTER FIVE - KEEP THE FAITH d***d (3257) More than a year ago " Probably not a coincidence.

In this case they are both HXV (Brian Holland) mixes as per the images. Is there an HXL (Lawrence Horn) mix too ?

Had forgotten those, great to hear again.

Interesting, still not 100 pecent of the timeline, but it looks like the origin of the song is through George M at Golden World. (This may only be the music track if Barbara Mercer was "Just penciled in"). Golden World didn't like it and sold it to George. (Before he "later" took it to Dave Hamilton, George could have gone to United Sound and recorded vocals with Barbara Mecer, if they wern't already pre recorded at GW). I emphasize "Could Have". He also could have taken it to other places too. Dave H than recorded Tobi Lark vocals. and then finished it at United Sound. So although Barbara could have recorded her vocals after United finished the Tobi Lark session, it seems more likely the recording came to United before Dave H got it, and they recorded Barbaras vocals (if they wern't already pre-recorded at Golden World) and for whatever reason never did any more with it, paving the way for George to go to Dave Hamilton.

I've only been able to check the opening lines for Detroit Dancers V1, which are on the Ace website. They do not help with individual tracks, but the detailed notes inside may help. Alas don't have a copy. See Ady can help.

Yes, it was a typo on my behalf, I meant to say Golden World, not Groovesville.

Thanks Mike, with the following from George . . . "I also did a couple of my things on Barbara Mercer over at Golden World too. Mr. Wingate gave me that chance. I wrote 'Happiness is here' on her and 'Just penciled in.' They didn't like 'Happiness' is here' when it was finished so I bought the track from Mr. Wingate for $500 and later, when Dave Hamilton got some investment on his label, did it on Tobi Lark. General Motors were interested in the track. They were thinking of using it on a Chevy commercial but it didn't happen.... " . . . it must have been a Groovesville track then. Thanks folks. Sorry, meant to say it must have been a Golden World / Ed Wigate Track then.

Thanks Gilly, so it may be down to whoever George McGregor was working for at the time.

I'm sure this info is out there somewhere, but I'm trying to find out if "Happiness Is Here" was a Groovesville recording, later used by Dave Hamilton / Topper, or was it the other way around. Thanks

Thought we had a similar thing already with "best answer". It's been a while since I saw that though so maybe that's now gone.

Yes, I remember a guy selling awful CD's on eBay years ago of pitched up or down tracks, things like Frank Beverly, Jerry Williams, load of others, all done with no thought of the end result. If the function us used with a bit of thought, it's good for fixing key errors.

One of the rarer releases on red US Mercury shares a cat number with a male group pop song release. I thought it was Stormie Wynters or Cobblestone, but can't find info right now. I'm thinking it might be something else. Can anyone remember ?

Hi Simon, The first is Diana Ross, the second is Carla Thomas, both with a pitch drop of about 75% Just reversed process on your files. qqqXXX fixed.mp3 zzzXXX fixed.mp3

There's lots of examples of this happening. Philles 123 is one I always remember. Theres quite a lot of times where numbers get used more than twice, a few examples on Charay

Just add the Essex as The Yank mentioned above, and that's the full list. The Vocals ... 1 - Frankie & Classicals "What Shall I Do" (With Cold Start) - Calla 2 - Frankie & Classicals "What Shall I Do" (With Talk-in Intro)- Calla 3 - Laura Greene "Moonlight Music In You" - RCA 4 - The Essex "Moonlight Music And You" - Bang The Instrumentals ... 5 - Subway Riders "After The Session" - Moonshot - Pprobably not the correct title, as this tune only appears on some copies, most have an unrelated audio of session musicians talking after a recording, which is probably the intended B side, as it also makes sense of the title. 6 - Honey Townsend "The World Again" - Mala. 7 - Burning Emotions "The New World" - Bang (not to be confused with the ABC release, which is a different song altogether). 8 - Mark Johnson "The Beautiful Place" - Diamond (Identical to Burning Emotions but this has the slow intro cut out). Cheers Mick

Yes, it is 3226, Tear Drop, dist through Jamie / Guyden. And yes, "You're Everything is great.

It was released on Teardrop

I've got a 179 as above but no sticker on it.

This one ?

Not sure but I think so, taking it as literally third from left, just past Sam.

Happy birthday Keith. Like so many on here, I have very fond memories going back to the mid seventies when I was in my teens. In recent years he's the only one I know who still wanted a printed record list sent to him. Very best wishes Mick

Sad to lose another great. Was told it was not the Fayette artist though.