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Hi Dave , have pm'd

Hi Baz , have pmd

To stop thieving I suppose , ,wire flexible records in old Britvic style boxes , the thread is how come so many damaged records , It was just another way of protecting their stock , and yes some stalls and shops did it this way which would contribute to the damage suffered by so many records , they weren't for sale , it was just to stop theft .the ones for sale where under the counter so to speak . And yes there where some that would use the same method , using the centre larger hole with a metal bar , exactly the same reason to stop the thieves , but again wouldn't have done much for the longevity of the record in the box , lots of theiving f*c*e*s then and now

So Rick if the ships ballast myth was nothing more than that , perhaps a rouse to put others off the trail and the true source? I knew the significance of the drill hole , deletions etc but I'm sure that back in the day on certain markets stalls that the hole was used ,threaded with wire in boxes leaving just enough room to look through the records and when purchasing the owner would then select a copy from another box kept out of site , to prevent theft , I'm sure a couple of shops also copied this style .

I once read a feature years ago , regarding the state of a lot of old reggae records both here and in the UK and from Jamaica, and the reason given that the " Parties" all night and lots of people having a good time , that the records very rarely made in back into the sleeves if at all , maybe our American cousins where having as much fun and remember these tunes where plentiful and probably not looked upon as future collectors items but to be enjoyed and danced to at the time of release and suffered the same fate , and remember a lot came over and where used as ships ballast , back in day , wired into bundles via the drill holes , I remember talking to Pete Widd , about the very subject of ships ballast years ago

I'm pretty sure a total of 35 , not an easy discography to find but time on my hands during lockdown , and kept the list but is hand written. If it helps ,

Just had a notification,Kim Tibbs Where Would I Be etc Red Vinyl for sale £75.45 on discogs really ?

Love it , and just played through all the others , love them all is it an on going project with an album vinyl or cd , or individual releases ?

Having only joined Soul Source during the Pandemic as a means of keeping in touch and listening to the excellent BVAN , apart from JM's and Tim Browns auction site , as there ever been a soul only sales auction, or buy now etc , website , I'm only asking because there as to be a solution to evilbay , it never gets a good revue , personally I've bought a lot and in most cases have been very happy with the results , but it sounds like the sellers suffer . I know there are lots of individual websites that cater for the soul followers , but a site that runs like evilbay is surely only interested in the amount of percentage they can make on each sale Inc extras , so why is it still so popular as an outlet and yet hated so much , apart from discogs , what else is there ?

Yes ,last year April 2021 , Hipshakin 7" , Rhythm "n" soul a couple on eBay , not sure if Legit but did buy one when issued and sounds and looks ok , to be honest a few good releases on the label but I have no idea on legality hope they are good looking with matching sleeves etc

It may have something to do with the Soul Police , the recent Lou Pride version of I'm Comin Home has been available on cd album for the best part of 20 yrs , and a hell of a lot of tracks on Kent for instance cd only , a change of mentality which will never happen and is a completely and understandable reason when some DJ has spent a months wages on one OVO, but as you say with new releases in a modern age a lot of tunes are ignored , In the old days loads of tunes played on EMI disc made to look like Acetates at most venues and big named djs got away with it . Good news though check out the sales section re the Kim Tibbs , regarding downloads can't see the Soul Police going for that one , more for the MP3 player if still in fashion lol .

Back to the thread , still buying everything new that makes my feet happy , oldies within my budget , lots of UK releases old and new , albums instead of expensive 45s and the odd cd , I'd say about 40 items a month. My wife says you don't need anymore records but she doesn't get it , sold up early 90s to pay for house restoration, since then , have had to build an extension to house them , don't know why can't explain it must be some sort of addiction , off now to the man cave ' Sunday Night Is Soul Night ' and to play all this week's buys and the odd beer or three cheers

Limited releases, immediately attracts the sharks , drop the word Limited and it just becomes first come first served , and don't mention numbers until they're all sold , it's a limited market anyway so why should someone who had nothing to do with the making of the record make more by buying a few copies. Promos of old classics released again and again don't get that either .

Let's hope they release enough copies , is it cd or vinyl ?

Can someone please explain why when a new release , say 300 copies sells out, can a re run not be planned if successful ? It wouldn't be the first time and would allow the artists etc to make a living , surely music is for sharing not exclusivity. The Jon Allen & Kim Tibbs both limited but also very good tunes and would surely sell another 300 copies , these are new tunes and not releases that have been issued up to 4 times in the past ,I have Melba Moore , The Magic Touch on 3 labels with 3 different b sides and I wouldn't be surprised if available on more . Somebody involved with the marketing of these new tunes must surely know the difference between a limited 300 or 500 , confused I am .

Inevitable

Kidderminster Tesco's , actually saw a young guy dancing in the ailes next to the deli last week ,Saturday evening , to Dusty Springfield, Am I The Same Girl , quite often a good tune played in there , and a few years back just before we where going through the channel tunnel the morning of the earthquake, Cornelius Brothers &Sister Rose ,Too Late To Turn Back Now , played during breakfast in the restaurant of the Ashford International Hotel , then we heard about the earthquake and was told due to the design of the tunnel all was okay , still here lol

Have pm'd

Still looking for a copy , pm please if one for sale

Anyone got a spare copy , please pm if yes

Have seen this kind of thing cropping up from time to time , even in Cold Feet , maybe the producers think it's trendy , but surely Old Skool , would be more appropriate even House it just doesn't go with the characters portrayed within the story lines .

Back in 82 , Clarkies list mail order no internet , Limitations Lonely etc £8. Natural Four I Thought etc £8.Nowadays Jon Allen and the Skinner Bros £12. a week later £75 plus, it's now becoming a numbers market and definitely not what's in the grooves market , a scene that was once driven by the dance floor reaction maybe is taking a deferent route , I remember a similar conversation back in the early 80s ,would these records stand the test of time ,, answer yes But surely nowadays there has to be less collectors , so prices should be more reasonable,, And the amount of reissues of ordinary and cheap original easily available vinyl ,doesn't make sense either ,, I don't think and never have , that the rare soul scene is any different from any other money making market when full of entrepreneurs , who just want to take advantage of a market when numbers are scarce or are they ???

Very ,very good and great back story , well done guys 40 years is a long time ,hope it does well , great work Yann

Has anybody got any old boxes , vinyl size or similar that they no longer use and could do with a makeover and no longer require , pm me , I'll pay postage etc or collect if close enough , or upcycle for you

Very carefully individually cut out from old mags , fanzines , etc that I'd purchased over the years some had twice and some scanned , each one stuck on individually with clear PVA ,then 5 coats of clear PVA to seal , the base sanded waxed and polished, the felt was from an old poker set , again from a boot sale , and the legs saved from a trip to the tip , the labels are deliberately turned to face each direction of the box/table so can be seen from all directions , even the carpet adhesive to fix the felt was a freebie , I swapped my wife for the handle and hooks , she wants them for a project she's got on the go , separate workshops , it's the only solution lol