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My apologies. I have created this problem by presenting incomplete information from the back cover of the LP. The two tracks referred to were covers by the Echoes and Cassietta Jones and not the original versions by Garnett Mimms and the Incredibles. Since it was a Destiny LP, I am assuming Neil Rushton provided the information as to where, when and by whom played and I would assume it would be accurate. The Cassietta Jones version of There's Nothing... uses the original backing track and was made in 1967. The Echoes is a 1979 tailor made and will not live long in the memory.
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I'm sure all of the following were played elsewhere around the same time but I heard them on my only visit to Blackpool Mecca, Easter Saturday, 1972. Ain't no more room The Kittens Too Late Larry Williams and Johnny Watson K-Jee The Nite Liters You're gonna make me love you Sandi Sheldon Gonna get along without you now The Vibrations I don't wanna discuss it Little Richard Reach out The San Remo Golden Strings There were obviously many more sounds played, than the ones listed, but somehow these have stuck in my mind when I recall that night. Sandi Sheldon and the Kittens each received two plays. I'd never heard K-Jee or Reach Out before. I don't think either had been played at the Catacombs up to that point. In fact I can't recall ever hearing K-Jee there. Somebody who frequented the Mecca in, say, 1975 would have heard a completely different playlist. Which set of sounds most typified the venue is problematic since they both did, but at different times.
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Here's the rest of the sounds on the LP and where, when, and by whom they were played. The missing year on number 19, Blowing my mind to pieces, is 1973.
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Taken from the back cover of the Destiny LP from 1979, The Record Collector Volume 1.
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Interesting idea. I find the what played and where played fascinating, but another consideration is when they were played. Most of the iconic clubs had a shelf life of several years and so what was played initially changed considerably over time. Even Va Vas which only ran for a matter of months saw a virtually changed playlist by the end of its existence from the one that started out. Having said that my memories of clubs very much revolves around the records played, after all they were the main drivers of the atmosphere created, so I look forward to this discussion.
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The first Torch all-nighter was March 11th, 1972. I can't find a definitive date for the initial UTJ event, but I vaguely recall being aware of the venue before I'd heard of the Torch. Trawling through Blues and Soul from the era would probably provide an answer but my copies of that are long gone, unfortunately.
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Fairly certain these are originally from Blues and Soul in 1972. Taken from a post put up by Keithw back in 2007 so my thanks to him. As I said in my original post I think the August 5th all-nighter was the last one, unless anybody knows different. Interesting that the only DJ named was Alan Day. Anybody know the names of any of the others?
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I have vivid memories of UTJ as it was the first all-nighter I attended and also one of the last held there. It may well have been the very last one held there, August 5/6 1972. Alan Day was clearly the main man in the upstairs main room, quite literally centre stage, spinning the top sounds of the day. The very big popular items received multiple plays and I recall the herd moving en masse on to the dance floor when the opening notes of the Younghearts or Roy Hamilton crashed out of the sound system. No lack of soul credibility there, but perhaps the same could not be said for Guy Darrel's 'I've Been Hurt' but that received equal approbation when the striking guitar-led introduction pierced the room. Two other items that fell into that very top drawer category, in terms of dance floor reaction, were Bobby Paris: Per-son-ally, and Jo Armstead's vocal version of 'Urge' Whenever the dance floor began to thin out, even at 7am. any of these items were guaranteed to lift the atmosphere again. As did the Du-ettes "Every Beat Of My Heart", another track that fell into this special category. Other items that made up his playlist and kept the night ticking along were such records as Desiree, Grooving at the Go-Go, Tracks to your Mind, Johnny Sayles, Jeanette White amongst others. Nothing cleared the floor and given the quality of the playlist and the palpable engagement of the clientele, Mr. Day had little need to interject any extra encouragement through his microphone. "Here's one for all who've just retuned from Torquay." was one announcement between records that vaguely registered. Even in 1972 records from a previous era were inserted into the playlist if they matched the powerhouse tone and tempo of the moment. Slipping Around was one example and Breakout had at least two appearances on the turntable, though the emphasis overall was very much on recent or new discoveries. As though to illustrate the point, two records I hadn't heard before both received multiple plays. "The Penguin Breakdown" by LJ Reynolds and Chocolate Syrup was one such item. I've rarely heard it since but it was popular enough that night. Make a good backing track for a cowboy film, I thought back then but now I actually think it's quite good. The other track new to my ears sounded very different to the standard formula with a haunting synthesiser- led backing track . Very strange, I thought, though that didn't seem to put off the audience who were already clearly familiar with the sound and accepted it readily. Later that year it became a regular play at the Catacombs but it was at Crewe that I first heard, "Blowing up my Mind" by The Exciters. Downstairs from the main hall there was a smaller dance floor with a strange cockpit arrangement for the DJs set above the edge of the dance floor. I didn't spend much time there as the main hall seemed to be the place to be with an atmosphere to match. I only went the once and it was a time when, in my opinion, the standard of records played was rarely matched, but in terms of atmosphere and playlist, Up the Junction holds its own in terms of comparison with other ,more iconic venues, of the era.
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Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
Great research. Now, the artists and titles leap out at you but back then they would have been just words on a page. -
Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
The best thing about the Joe Wilson single is the label. In the seventies record companies competed with each other to produce the gaudiest designs and range of colours far removed from the understated simple lines of their 60s product. Pye were by no means the worst when it came to this crime against style but by 1973 the die was cast. -
Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
I must admit to a leaning towards the fast and furious when it comes to soul music and the type of sound that dominated playlists in the post-Wheel, pre-Wigan period, which was my era, suited my taste. Roger Eagle in The Strange World of Northern Soul commented that the pace of records was more varied in the earlier days of the Wheel, and slower sounds featured at Stafford in the eighties so over the entire period the pace hasn't always veered to the frenetic. Where things went badly wrong was when pace and beat became the main criterion for featuring on playlists and the 'soul' bit of northern soul was relegated to an afterthought. -
Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
Fascinating Slow Fizz story, Roburt. Thanks for that. Up the Junction regulars were telling me about 'Slow Fizz' as being played by Alan Day in the summer of 1972. I didn't register hearing it until September when the Catacombs reopened and he had been added to the DJ roster. It remained on playlists through to the early summer of 1973, testimony to its dance floor impact and limited access to copies. By the time the UK Probe release came along its place in the sun had come and gone. Oddly enough, I too registered a comparison between both Sapphires' releases but arrived at the opposite conclusion. Blue Max had a HMV copy of Gotta Have Your Love which he played at the Connaught Hotel back in '71 but to my ears it sounded a bit too twee, whereas Slow Fizz, despite simplistic lyrics, was a powerhouse of a sound that hit the right receptors as far as I was concerned. Maybe, beyond personal preference, this illustrates the difference in the types of sound that were appreciated at the Wheel and those that followed thereafter, that you referred to. -
Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
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Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
Difficult to comprehend how a record as powerful as James Bounty remained under the radar after being played at the Wheel back in 1970. By late '72 it was holding its own on playlists featuring anthemic items like Eddie Parker and Earl Jackson. Another point of interest for me from the Dave Godin article was his recommendation to purchase a copy of Joe Wilson's 'Sweetness' then available in record stores. The same advice was offered to me at the Catacombs around the same time by Alan S, then the main DJ at the venue. Needless to say, this wasn't ignored and I duly acted within the week, despite my own lukewarm reaction to the record, which remains with me to the present day. -
Alan Day here on the left with the other DJs from the Torch, '72-3.
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BBC 2 - Northern Soul at the Proms - Tv Broadcast Saturday Night
Torch56 commented on Mike's article in News Archives
I watched it in its entirety and enjoyed it for what it was: interpretations of examples of the genre fifty years on. The vocalists and orchestra did their best to recreate the sound but inevitably fell short of the excellence the original artists provided. However, the performance wasn't intended primarily for the likes of us but for an audience of newcomers to the music, or people who have had only a fleeting experience of northern soul. By this criterion, I would imagine the event will be judged a success. I was far more interested in the instrumentation than the singers. Accomplished technically as they were, they were never going to match the vocal impact of those classics that we heard all those years ago. I wanted far more shots of the orchestra with focus on the strings, percussion, and wind instruments when they were the main focus of sections of tracks. Indeed, I would have been happy with a playlist entirely of instrumentals. To have that orchestra, with its ability to present a wall of sound would have been such a powerful visual image to augment sounds with which most of us have been familiar for half a century. -
Dave Godin cover ups at Twisted Wheel in B & S
Torch56 replied to Eddie Hubbard's topic in All About the SOUL
I do recall reading a Dave Godin B&S column from 71/2 where he admitted covering up records, and justified the practice, which makes his railing against the practice, as quoted earlier in this thread, somewhat inconsistent. Two records I distinctly remember him referring to as personal former 'secret sounds' were James Bounty, Prove Yourself a Lady, and the Ad-Libs, Nothing's Worse Than Being Alone. -
I first heard this in the summer of 1973 played at the Octopus on a Saturday lunch-time by Pep. I was not immediately enamoured and thought it compared most unfavourably with the other Impact record being played around that time: the anthemic Crying Over You'. I have since revised my initial assessment of Nothing But Love and now consider it one of the great instrumentals of the era. John Rhys, RIP.
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Here's an example of the adverts that appeared in Blues and Soul in the spring of 1972. The proof reading left something to be desired. Cigarette Ash? The DJ's names have been partially cropped on this image but Alan S' name has been given one L too many and the errant apostrophe on Catacombs is unfortunate. Nevertheless, listing the records and the slogan 'Where the Sounds begin' was visually arresting and, armed with the knowledge that an advert had been booked in the magazine it was with much anticipation that I flicked eagerly through the pages of my copy over half a century ago. This image has been taken from the Catacombs facebook page which is run by Eddie Matusiuk who works tirelessly to keep the memories alive. Credit to him.