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Yes very rare indeed ! ...if I remember right Prince George-Wrong Crowd was getting played around the same time which is another that got booted too soon

Blimey you're got good eyes ! Very faint at 7 o'clock on the AGR side and 11 o'clock on the OLUTB side on mine but barely noticable. Does yours have the other details like mine?

Can't say as I fully appreciated his description of Send Him Back ! That's part of my misspent youth he's belittled there

In a different position to mine though in comparison to the label. Also, just noticed on mine there is a very faint matrix stamp before the main markings followed by a tiny scratched in1335A. So small I can't work out whether its stamped or scratched.

It was only played for a month or so before it was booted.....where my memory must be wrong is the venue, I had thought I heard it at the eastern venues Cleggy/St Ives. Must have been Wigan if it was an RS spin.

Hi Mick Just carried out the check you suggested. When I flipped to the Our Love side the 69001 with the scratched out A and then the replacement B is at 5 o'clock rather than 2 o'clock as on your copy. So, same plates but different press, which unfortunately doesn't rule out the (unlikely) possibility that my minter is a very clever counterfeit. As for the label's if they kept the plates why wouldn't they keep the left over labels? My uncle worked for Watneys in 1966 and had a whole shoe box full of left over World Cup Willie pale ale bottle labels,it's the same principle - people keep useless stuff. I would conclude that the later finds could be dodgy, but it's far more likely that they legitimate.......do you want to swop your vg- copy for my ex+

76 if my memory serves me well. Booted before it really took off.

Thanks Mick. Will have a look later and report

Where yours has the ring wear, it corresponds with a slight dish toward the middle ? If so, the same as mine. The scratched details on the run out are between 9 o'clock & 11 o'clock on the A.G.R. side & 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock on the O.L.U.T.B. side . On the O.L.U.T.B. side the A after the record number has been scratched out & replaced by B on mine Hi Stevie is yours the same as the description I gave to Ted regarding run out details & slight dish to the centre?

Hope this works ! I'm not so hot on modern technology !

That's the very reason I'd like to see one of the original 70s finds next to a recent find - to compare the labels. In my main box I'm of the opinion that all the records are originals. However, if one of the fellas mentioned above in the thread pulled out my Royal Esquires and said " we pressed these in 2003 and drip fed the market " would I be surprised? No. Disappointed yes, but not surprised. The same applies to many other records we all treasure. Just because we haven't identified them as boots it doesn't mean that there's a slim chance the counterfeiters have got one over us.

Yes I agree that the they could well be legitimate finds. However as Mal C alluded to earlier in this thread if the original plates and master tapes are still in circulation it's a possibility that they could be very good counterfeits... the key word being possibility NOT probability here ! As a mate said to me, how on earth do we know the counterfeiters haven't been successful?? We obviously all think that they are originals

I agree Dave. That's the reason I'd like to see an original 70s find next to one of the newer finds to put my suspicious mind back to sleep.

Hope you are right. After all I own one of the later finds. It would be nice to be able to put one of the original finds next to one that's come onto the market in the last few years to have a look though. After all, if you're clever enough to counterfeit a record in the first place its not going to be beyond your wit to put a marker pen X on a few for authenticity. Not for one moment saying I have any evidence to suggest that they are boots, it's just that they look very new - none with faded labels etc.

They all look very 'new'......Just my suspicious mind ?

Good god, no wonder we had ditched Wigan for Yate

Not Martin's own work then. I'd wrongly thought it was.

Looks like the feeding frenzy may have slowed. One finishes today on ebay starting at $289 with no takers yet

Martin would have known if he wrote that article. He used to spend half the night looking over shoulders at the decks, ( and the other half driving anyone in ear shot mad with his chemical fueled drivel ) . ....I still have a feeling it was known and played well before 78 though. Martin - Are you still on here ? Anyone ?

Pressed up in late 78

Sam was playing it 77/78 but I was under the impression that it was a well known sound prior to that?

I'm told that the b side is driving demand. Even so, it's not that rare !

Giving my head a wobble to get the years old conversations back to the front...Wasn't the run in flat on the first 7 inch run and beveled on the 2nd or am I mistaken?