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I've taken out the Contours track due to its issue on the MFP LP - So technically issued - However tracks like that & say Garland Green CTM - Could be included addendum due to it being an unissued recording on 45 but appearing on 45. Alternatively - Say if Bettye Swanns' ' I Want Sunday Back Again' appeared on a Warners (or whatever) 45 it would be worthy of inclusion as a recording appearing on 45 for the first time. So what do we think? A compiled list of tracks such as Green / Contours etc etc? And I'll say it again - as Brett highlighted Bill Spoon - There's essential material to be added ala 12/LP etc. (however I will leave the CD / Mp3 OFO list to someone else......) Rich

Hi John / Eddie / TOAD Just what are the origins of the Bobby McClure / GC Cameron / Bobby Byrd 45s? Always thought the McClure Island 45 an odd one. Were they tracks languishing in the vaults? Happy to put these in - also aside from my moody reply earlier (been a crap day) - think it would be a good idea re. a 12s/LP unissued thread. As Brett pointed out (weapon of choice in hand ) material like Bill Spoon etc warrants some attention and documentation. ??? Best Rich

Got nothing to do about what can/can't be played Brett - As my answer to Benji above its not a soul-political thread just one about unissued material issued on 45. Rich

Benji - Its got f*** all to do with the 'soul police' - The thread was started as a previously unissued material on 45 as I thought it was generally the preferred medium. Quite happy for folk to fight it out re. Garland Green et al - I personally wasn't aware it had come out on an LP but there is an argument that as a piece of unissued material available on 45 for the first time it's inclusion may be warranted. I'm laying no laws down here as such and am happy to be corrected and as it goes material on 12" / LP etc is more than welcome as I've stated in another thread the music is there to be highlighted and can often get lost. You want to kick off a 12"/LP thread Benji? I've already changed the title of the thread to suit one person - you want me to change it again? Brett - Of course how can we forget Anita Robins!! Will update the list later on. Thanks for the input (and everyone else) Rich

Eloquent and pertinent points made Sean - And one argument that I'm not willing to get involved with as such but with the legit unreleased material on 45s thread I started (in many ways 'inspired' from this very thread) was in many ways to highlight what great material is available and legitimate in both a legal and the right to play out at a venue without fear of worrying about OVO etc. I see no reason why a Dj cannot play an unissued recording on Grapevine whatsoever but I can understand (and support in many many ways) why a Dj or attendee at a night might well get the huff on hearing a released / re-issued track on Grapevine. But from so many soul nights / all nighters to choose from I think we can all choose for ourselves if the OVO issue bothers us. I know from a personal point of view if I were to visit an advertised 'upfront / progressive' venue and hear boots / re-issues then that would firmly out me in the OVO only camp. I have no wish to visit oldies only venues but understand that to many the issue of format / legality etc has no bearing on what is a good night out for many. I know thats a simplistic view and know the issues cross but I do believe promotors / Dj's should nail their colours to the mast for all to see - So that the paying public can judge for themselves. One last point on the unissued material - I thought it was a good idea to document the 45s as both testament to the labels themselves and the sheer quality of what is out there and we've not even touched the vast amount of material available on CD - So for the record OFO could well win out for those nights / Dj's and the paying public that wish to pursue and enjoy nights of quality soul music. Rich (BTW - No death threats as yet!)

GM List One above on Global Dog - Save you some time Brett. Rich

List updated - Soul King 45s / Gwen Owen / Tony Drake 45s added + Bobby Reed & Little Bobby Parker UK Shrine 45s / Delfonics added also. think we're there with the 6T's Anniversary / Kent / 45s. Additions / flaws / rants welcome Rich Added: Hollygrove 45s / Unissued material from Goldmine/Connoiseurs / Anita Robins / Bobby Byrd / Marvellettes /

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Was that the September Jones we've got on the list? That rings a bell ala Manship. I'll edit list and put the Soul King 45s on that John kindly pointed out. Rich

Look good to me. Were the Soul King 45s all from the same original source / label ? Rich

I wish Paul - Afraid it was only wardobes and chest of drawers - ORIGINAL UK items might I add... Rich

Ahh I see what you & Ady mean now... Apologies for confusion. Rich

Cheers Steve List amended & all additions on (I think!) Think we're getting there or are we... Rich

If someone can provide a list of missing Anniversary / Kent 45s - Much obliged. Springers / Ronnie Walker addded. Vic & Jon taken out. Horaces 45s - Good call. Not seen a list for ages. Ady? Mayfield Singers / Moses Smith - I think legit too? Shrine re-issues - Forgot about those and legit too. As TB owns Shrine rights - am I right? Rich

All there except McCants which I thought was issued. Is it acetate only then?? Luther Ingram to add tho. Rich

As before - Found a scan on t'interweb. Rich TOC.bmp

Good call - Issued to promote a CD I think??? Rich

T.O.C Band - Hand It Over (TOC) One and only one I've seen on the label. Good tune - Might have a soundfile somewhere. Rich

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List re-analised Benji. Not sure about the Linda Jones - Just going by what was mentioned. Happy to take it off if issued. Rich

Previously Unreleased tracks on 45 Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine) Aleshure Shower The World (Phoenix) Betty Boo - Say It Isn't So (Grapevine) Bob & Earl Band - My Little Girl (Inst) (Jay Boy) Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction) Bobby Reed - Caledonia Brown / Baby Dont You Leave (UK Shrine/Goldmine) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You / Prophets Band - Peaches Baby (6T's Anniversary) Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Horaces) Charles Brimmer - Show & Tell (Hayley) Chubby Checker / Teardrops - You Can't Lose Something / Here Comes Loneliness (6T's Anniversary) Chuck Jackson / Superb Strings - What's With This Loneliness / Surf n Soul (6T's Anniversary) Contours - Baby Hit And Run (Tamla Motown) Danny Cobus / Chico & Buddy - The Two Of Us / You Won't Miss The Water (Kent) David Sea - Believe In Me - (Shotgun) Dean Courtney / Sharon Scott - Today Is My Day / Putting My Heart Under Lock & key (6T's Anniversary) Debra Johnson / Diplomats - To Get Love You've Got To Give Love / I Really Love You (6T's Anniversary) Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine) Devonnes / Mayberry Movement - Doin' The Gittin' Up / I See Him Making Love to You (6T's Anniversary) Doni Burdick - Candle / Watcha gonna Do (Soul King) Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine) Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine) Eddie Ray - Wait A Minute (Prix/Numero Group) Emanual Laskey - (Put your Name) In the Hall of Fame (Hayley) Eric & The Vikings - Hurting - (Kool Kat) Garland Green - Come Through Me (Kent) (Also 6T's Anniversary) Gigi & The Charmaines / The Mysteries - I Don't Want To Lose Him / Too Late Now (6T's Anniversary) Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside) Gwen Owen - Lies / Rain (Mel-ady) Hoagy Lands - True Love At Last (UK American USA 13) Hy-Tones / George Jackson - Good News / All In My Mind (6T's Anniversary) Inspirations - Gotta Find A New Love (Benn-x / Goldmine?) J J Barnes - Love At First Sight (Hayley) Jeffree - Love Loan (Expansion) Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine) Jimmy Ruffin - Leading Lady - Take My Hand (Soul Junction) Jimmy Ruffin - The Entertainer/Steve Mancha - One in a million (Hayley) Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out / Long Version (Soul Junction) John Edwards - Tin Man (Kent) John Edwards / Loleatta Holloway - Ain't That Good Enough / This Man's Arms (6T's Anniversary) Johnnie Taylor / Judy Clay - Please Let Me In / Since You Came Along (6T's Anniversary) Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine) Johnny Moore - You Fixed It / Your Way Is My Way (Soul Junction) Just Brothers - Honey (Hayley) Lorraine Chandler / Metros - You Only Live Twice / Mr Imagination (6T's Anniversary) Luther Ingram / Chet Ivey - Baby Don't You Weep / Mata Hari (Kent) L.V Johnson - Recipe For Love (Goldmine) Little Ann - Who Are You Trying to Fool (Kent) Little Bobby Parker - I Won't Believe It (Till I See It) - (UK Shrine/Goldmine) Loretta Kendrick - My Feelings Keep getting In The Way (Hayley) Melba Moore - The Magic Touch / Chuck Jackson Ensemble - Little By Little - (6T's Anniversary) Melba Moore - Magic Touch (Kent) Melba Moore / Tommy Hunt - Magic Touch (Horaces) Mill Evans / Millionaires - Ain't You Glad / I'm The One Who Loves You (6T's Anniversary) Milton Bennett / The Hesitations - What's One More Lie / Go Away (6T's Anniversary) Mixed Emotions - Am I Imposing - ROCK-WAY MM & The Peanuts / The Charmaines - Can't Say No / I Idolize You (6T's Anniversary) Nelson Saunders - It's Real / I Hold The Key (Soul King) Other Brothers / Bettye Swann - Nobody But Me / The Dance Is Over - (Kent) Otis Redding / Barbara & The Browns - Loving By The Pound / I'm Gonna Start A War (Kent) Peggy Woods / ZZ Band - Love Is Gonna Get You / You Just Cheat & Lie (6T's Anniversary) Platters - Not My Girl - 6T's Anniversary 3 Ron Henderson & Choice Of Colour - Nobody Will Ever Take Your Love From Me / Hooked On Your Love (Soul Junction) Ronnie Walker - Trouble (Impact) Royal Five - Nobody Else / Don't Stop Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun) Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun) San Franciscan TKO's / Peggy Gaines - Make Up Your Mind / When The Boy That You Love (6T's Anniversary) September Jones - Give Me All Of Your Love (Body & Soul) Sons Of Robin Stone - I'm Ready To Give Up My Love / It Only Happens In The Movies Springers - Who You Gonna Turn To (Wale) Stella & Gazelles - I'm Not In Love With You Anymore / Topics - Nicer Girl Sy Hightower - I Wonder Why (Hayley) Syl Johnson - All I need is someone like you - Grapevine The Hamptons - No No No Not My Girl - (6T's Anniversary) The Magicians / Wee Willie Walker - Faith & Understanding / I Don't Want To Take A Chance (6T's Anniversary) The Marvelettes - Finders keepers / Kim Weston - Do like I do (UK TMG) The Metros - What's Wrong With Your Love / She's Just Not Everybody's Girl (Soul King) The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine) Thunderbird Sound - In heaven and on earth (Hayley) Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy) Tony Drake - Hey World / Living In The Footsteps Of Another Man (It's Soul Time) Wally Cox / Six Teasers - This Man Wants You / Doing The 100 (6T's Anniversary)

Will do Steve Rich

Cheers Paul / Steve Didn't know where I got that info from. Crackin stuff on there too. Joy of joys I have a truck to unload right now but I'll get a list of Kent 45s and add 'em on. Rich

Think its Crazy Beat themselves behind the Soul Junction logo. I think the Alice Clark is an issued LP track???? Could be wrong tho'. Rich

Amended - Steve & Pikeys' added.