Baz Atkinson

agree with the Stylistics and the brilliant Tramps partiuclary their incredible lps -others what spring to mind are the Delphonics which are without a doubt the sweetest group of all imho -also the Intruders -just simply mindblowing !When i think about this logically the person who has the most in terms of undervalued incredible records is bloody Edwin Starr-how many times when he was alive did we gasp "oh not Edwin again"just play Harlem or I have faith in you and weep at the genius,his stuff on granite also-never off the decks in my house!! Who else well alot of the philly-int -taken for granted by many -radio 2 played me and mrs jones the other day,I swear this record has the lot imho-as does satisfaction quarenteed -harold melvin.I absolutely agree on Arthur Conley "put our love together "is a masterpeice recording catching the essence of the early seventies sound-also how many take for granted Wilson Pickett -if you want a lesson in deep soul play search my heart -it has the lot-i think some artistes can get painted with a few hits and we can take the other stuff for granted-Wilson is a fine example of this!! How many stax records charted? perhaps every artiste on this definitive logo gets taken for granted particulary the awesome Soul Children -move over -is in my all time top 5.Candi Staton is another "try -you dont love me no more for size -mindblowing,an artiste who had a massive chart hit then really judged on the basis of that. In many ways most of the motown stuff is taken for granted in some form or another take the Commodores -play the human zoo -it is a fantastic record -so progressive for the time as was Marvin Gaye "trouble man",how many people would really search Marvins catalogue out?how many for instance know about tracks like "you",a classic example again of fame blighting peoples perception of quality! JAMES BROWN -took the northern crowd an eon to latch onto people wake up and live -etc,well hes just funk aint he [bollocks]check out georgia on my mind -again a miracle in the making!!And dont listen to the soul-stirrers lol-what have there got to offer "I supose it goes on and on!! My view on this is that the obscure argument has dulled alot of senses for so long -alot of the records that charted did so simply because there were brillaint -and alot of the input of most artists after their chart sucess in many ways even got better!!! BAZ A. CURTIS MAYFIELD -MOVE ON UP "AH SHITE "WELL HE AINT DONE NOWT HAS HE-JUST PARHAPS THE GREATEST GENUIS OF ALL-CHECK OUT MOST OF HIS CURTOM STUFF WHICH LUCKILY IS NOW IN REFO-SOUL -TRUE MASTER IN ALL HIS GLORY!!

Question is do the other big D recordings have DR in the matrix? This one does -I was convinced this was not David Ruffin-AND WROTE A LOAD ABOUT IT SOMEWHERE ON THE SITE GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL-but you know what "im not sure now lol!!, just cant dis-prove it and going off the voice its remarkably similar-the flip is bloody great also imho -bit wilder and funkier lol,Lee Rodgers produced perhaps exstending the theory more -could dam well be him LOL!!! BAZ A.

DEL CHONTAYS - BABY I NEED YOU -

TERRIFICS LEAVE US ALONE - ID be tempted on this been a very exspensive 4 weeks someone get it sounds great out.!!! BAZ A

THANKS SEBASTIAN. BAZ A Below is from: https://www.soulfulki...c.net/money.htm 201 - James Reed - Oh People / My Love Is Real - 1954 202 - The Hollywood Flames - Fare Thee Well / Clickety Clack I'm Leaving - 1954 203 - Joe Houston - All Night Long / Way Out - 1954 204 - Grady Chapman and the Suedes - Need You So / Don't Blooper - 1955 205 - Mari Jones and Johnny Moore's Three Blazers - Lonesome Gal / What Makes A Man Fool Around - 1955 206 - Johnny Fuller - I Walk All Night / These Young Girls - 1955 207 - Joe Houston - Celebrity Club Stomp / Sentimental Journey - 1955 208 - Jesse Belvin With The Jackson Brothers Orchestra - I'm Only A Fool / Trouble And Misery - 1955 209 - The Turbans - Tick Tock Awoo / Nest Is Warm - 1955 209 - The Turbans - Tick Tock Awoo / No No Cherry - 1955 210 - Earl Burton - Sleep Drink And Play / Ala Boo - 1955 211 - The Turks - Emily / When I Return - 1955 212 - Memphis Slim - My Country Gal / Treat Me Like I Treat You - 1955 213 - Rev. J. Earl Hines - I Found Something / The Lord Is On My Side - 1956 214 - Chuck Higgins and the Mellomoods - Beautiful Love / Rock And Roll - 1956 215 - The Turks - I'm A Fool / I've Been Accused - 1956 216 - ? 217 - Big Boy Groves - Traffic Ticket / The Solid Rock - 1956 218 - ? 219 - ? 220 - The Ebonaires - The Very Best Luck In The World / Hey Baby Stop - 1956 221 - Vernon Anders - Hound Dog And Alley Cat / All Messed Up - 1956 222 - Jo Willette - Don't Touch Me / You Don't Play Fair - 1956 223 - ? 224 - The Five Bars - Stormy Weather / Somebody Else's Fool - 1957 101 - M - M and The Peanuts - Open Up Your Eyes / Lil' Valley - 1964 102 - Curly Money - White Lightin' / Little Things You Do - 1964 103 - Clarence Armstrong - Beaver - Part 1 / Beaver - Part 2 - 1964 104 - Comer Money - Now You're Gone / Stop - 1964 105 - The Question Marks - Doin' The Thing / Ain't That Kinda Sad - 1964 106 - The Larks - The Jerk / Forget Me - 1964 107 - M - M and The Peanuts - The Phillie / I Found My Love - 1965 108 - Bettye Swann - Don't Wait Too Long / What Is My Life Coming To - 1965 109 - Eric Williams - Goodbye My Love / I'll Give My Love To You - 1965 109 - The Larks - Mickey's East Coast Jerk / Soul Jerk - 1965 (Does This Exist?) 110 - The Larks - Mickey's East Coast Jerk / Soul Jerk - 1965 (Does This Exist?) 110 - The Larks - The Slauson Shuffle / Soul Jerk - 1965 111 - M-M'S & The Peanuts - Without A Word / My Belief - 1965 112 - The Larks - The Roman / Heavenly Father - 1965 112 - Don Julian & The Larks - The Roman / Heavenly Father - 1965 113 - Bettye Swann - What Can It Be / The Man That Said No - 1965 114 - The Larks - Heaven Only Knows / The Ducks - 1965 115 - The Meadowlarks - Can You Do The Duck / Sad Sad Boy - 1965 115 - The Larks - Can You Do The Duck / Sad Sad Boy - 1965 116 - Bobbi Row - Facts Of Life / ? - 1965 [sOUNDCLIP?] 117 - Don Julian - What Chance Has A Man / Lemme See You Philly - 1965 118 - Bettye Swann - The Heartache Is Gone / Our Love - 1966 119 - The Larks - The Answer Came Too Late / Lost My Love Yesterday - 1966 120 - ? 121 - Ted "Soul" Hawkins - Baby / Whole Lot Of Women - 1966 122 - The Larks - Philly Dog / Heaven Only Knows - 1966 123 - Bobby Angelle - I Love The Way You Love / I'm Begging - 1966 124 - Tommy and Eddie - I Love My Baby / I Don't Want Nobody - 1966 125 - Bobby Angelle - I Wanna Go Back Home / Living Lie - 1967 126 - Bettye Swann - Make Me Yours / I Will Not Cry - 1967 127 - The Larks - The Skate / Come Back Baby - 1967 128 - Bobby Angelle - Someone Is Gonna Hurt You / Too Much For You - 1967 129 - Bettye Swann - Fall In Love With Me / Lonely Love - 1967 130 - Moon And Mars and The Soul Producers - I'll Go Back Baby / I'm Your Man - 1967 131 - The Filmore Street Soul Rebellion - Put Your Weight On It Part 1 / Part 2 - 1967 132 - ? 133 - ? 134 - ? 135 - Bettye Swann - You Gave Me Love / Don't Look Back - 1968 136 - Bettye Swann - Don't Take My Mind / I Think I'm Falling In Love - 1968 137 - Bobby Angelle - It's Just Gotta Be That Way / You Got Me Dizzy - 1968 601 - The Larks - I Love You / I Want You (Back) - 1973 602 - Delilah Moore - I'll Just Walk Away / I Wish - 1973 603 - Delilah Moore - Wrapped Up Tight / Ooh Wee, Baby - 1973 604 - The Larks - My Favorite Beer Joint - Part 1 (Vocal) / Part 2 (Inst) - 1973 605 - Eddie Horan - I'm Gonna Speak Out / Losing You - 1973 606 - Pat Livingstone - You Bet I Would (If I Could) / You Bet I Would (If I Could) (Instrumental) - 1973 606 - Pat Livingston - You Bet I Would (If I Could) / Sugar Love - 1973 607 - Don Julian and The Larks - Shorty The Pimp Part 1 / Shorty The Pimp Part 2 - 1973 7000 - Ryan Manner - Part Of Growing Older / Somewhere In This Life - ? 7001 - Poverty Train - Love And Funky People / People's People - ? 702 Willard Burton - Let Me Be Your Pacifier / Warm The Pot (Till It Gets Good And Hot)

YEP TIS A GREAT TUNE INDEED!!! BAZ A. My fave on the label: The M-M and the Peanuts - Lil' Valley

we not got a disography yet?? BAZ A

YOU WANT A SAMPLE OF ALMOST PERFECT WEST COAST GROUP HARMONEY SOUL THEN FOR THE SIXTIES THIS HAS TO BE IT-TALKED ALOT ABOUT THIS RECORD TO MANY -VERY VERY GOOD RECORD. BAZ A Oh Baz! Completely agree with you on the Larks' 'Come Back Baby'...wonderful record! I recently got Bobby Angelle's 'It's Just Gotta Be That way'....what a corker!! OH YES AS IS THE FLIP!!

yep tremendous value !!! BAZ A kents three MONEY CDS are Brilliant

Always felt this was an underrated logo-the larks come back baby is a tremendous record imho-plus bobby angelle etc-great logo!! BAZ A

fiver of all folks [tight buggers]lol BAZ A.

Right folks -move completed and back to posting-condition stated -currently in switzerland untill late tonight so records will go out on final post tommorrow evening!! follow soundclip and records in this order. pstage £2 johnny sayles-anything for you-minit vg+ would be mint-but few vague scuffs great track got one on british £40 don gardener-your love is driving me crazy-mr g [rarely seen demo ]mint- [but few scuffs on logo ]this is a steal on a demo really not seen many!! £50 charen cotton-little bit of love-perception mint demo £40 bloody giveaway [got the rarer one quality crossover soul] the whispers-needle in a haystack-dore vg+ish book is high on this got a rare demo so this is £20 [someone get it folks-giveaway 75book] sold sold sold. henry lumpkin-honey hush-buddah mint - drill hole small [off the peg wild funky thing]£20 spare copy. annette pointexter-youll get it righ back-brena mint- lovely lilting tune seen for double this £30. willy wiley -just be glad -king [mint] slight log0 fray minimal £30 [got a demo-great tune].------------------------------------------------------------------------------------mary love-change your mind-josie vg+ £10 great stuff x3 [all will go] new concepts -give me another chance-phillips demo wol [date of release] mint £20 magnetics-waisting time-jv mint £50 1/4 of the book collectors group soul

Yep its got a bueatiful flipside has the Eddie parker tune -ONE OF HIS FINEST MOMMENTS IMHO!!! BAZ A

its interesting the whole debate-punters who visited generally had such affection for the place-its amazing that after 30 years the place is still at the centre of the debate-i visiited alot and lost my youth really,dont have a romantic view etc but do acknowledge that it was my right of passage "if not a bizzarre one".How do you judge the film is the question and what factors come into the equation. firsTly you need to watch it-then the question is what level do you judge it on? on artistic merits -doubt it -on realism -highley unliely if the trailer is anything to go by?Is it just to say "we were part of the magig to our peers-family-etc,if so harmless on that level and as we all know "the scene is very nostalgic"mainly due to the fact we are in our 40s-50s and 60s.Wigan to me was blueys,petty crime,bunking school,adolescent crushes lol,but Then when the quality came via searling or should i say jOHN ANDERSON it became a SOUL REVOLUTION-A total obssession which still rages now "so how does that get reflected in a film "it simply does not",because it is potentially a light hearted lookat a certain period of history probably glammed up and tacky-might make you laugh but the question at the end of it to quote MALCOLM MACLAREN may be "DO YOU EVER FEEL THAT YOUVE BEEN CHEATED".or maybe this is our scene and we like it.I dont care because i wont rush to watch it -but deep down I know I will lol AT SOME POINT. I had not been back to wigan since 81 had a week on a course and stayed in the hotel right near the shopping centre in November -visited the cafe and if that is the cultural legacy then we have failed miserably lol,because it is a costa with a few pics -and dancing to linda and funky boys near gregs really is ridiculous [this is only my view].I guess waht I am saying is that I really hope there is something to feel proud off in this film-something that tapS into the time on more than a superficial level -i have an open mind till I see it,but the trailer looks woeful -I am a film buff so maybe biased lol. Finally the other famous club of the times was ofcourse the studio in NYC some class films have been made about that place and its mercurail owner -maybe potential futuure attempts should really get into the seedier side and be true to it,instead of f--king danCing in the bedroom and wide trousers!!!iF THE FILM DOES NOT SHOW THE FLOURESENT LIGHT THEN THATS ME BIASED I LOVED THAT LIGHT IT REALLY MADE MY TEETH AND SOCKS SHINE.LOL. BAZ A

id be interested on Jerry Butler alone then all the other incredible stuff to choose from -carl hall-black and blue-etc -a true mighty soul logo imo!!! BAZ A

paid £40 for mine on a mint white demo -the flips great also-only time when stuff like this hard edged stuff really takes off - not seen many multi coloured ones either -great tune!! BAZ A

Fantastic record -just got the much sort after lp -check out another cheapie by them [the jonesses]even better for a fiverit will blow your mind!!! BAZ A

The 3 for me in the period i went 78-81 were -country girl-dont lik to lose and holly saint james -seem to echo and echo particulary country girl-amazed no one has mentioned construction -hey little way out girl -a very strong contender also!!! BAZ A

and a simple pm to the seller also surely !! a simple pm to me askin me to remove it would have sufficed and not ruined the sales thread

fair dos can we get back to the thread please !! Does open a wider debate i suppose but this is Harys sales thread so back to the sales and sorry for crambing your syle old mate [Harry] BAZ A

TAKE YOUR POINT AND OFCOURSE YOUR ALLOWED AN OPINION [WHO THE F--K AM I TOO SAY OTHERWISE]FOR WHAT ITS WORTH COMMENTS SHEDDING A POSITIVE LIGHT USUALLY HELP PUSH THE ITEM-COMMENTS RE PRICES TO HIGH DONT -COULD COMMENT BOTH WAYS ON NUMEROUS ITEMS BUT DONT BOTHER -FOR THE RECORD DONT SEE MANY NEGATIVE COMENTS RE PRICES TOO HIGH -BUYERS AINT FOOLS AND ITS A FREE MARKET -JUST THOUGHT IT WAS EXPECTED ETIQUETTE THAT COMMENTS RE OVERPRICED ITEMS SHOULD NOT BE AIRED -COULD BE WRONG -FOR WHAT ITS WORTH THE SELLER IS A GREAT LAD AND DONT SUFFER FOOLS EITHER!! BAZ A

its not good to comment re prices on here to be honest -not expected practice in all hoesty -if you have an iSsue with the price contact the seller in private!! BAZ A PS HOPE YOUR WELL OLD FRIEND !!GOOD LIST HARRY. THE JONESES-WHO LOVES YOU/LIES E+ £100 TOMMIE YOUNG-HIT AND RUN LOVER-SOUL POWER E+ £120 seems to me these two are a tad over priced

right folks i need for the rest of my life -to complete saru as a collector [rarely dj cant be having the bollocks lol]so for the 4th time for the rest of my life on saru-im closing the topic immediatly as usual because dont really give a shite about peoples comments on the record its availability etc,this is a long shot but you never know? up to 1250 waiting !!!

Joan is completly right -one is virtual -one is actual-the internet is used by many many punters and in a way the prolification of nites have meant that "the net has provided the tool to advertise -but you know what you dont have to attend".I often get confused as to terms of reference "the british rare soul scene is miles apart from most soul nights and I do not believe that soul nights etc impact rare soul nighter/upfront dos etc-if so why did i not see loads of new faces at the ones I attended last year."WHAT I DID SEE WAS A LOAD OF PEOPLE IVE KNOWN SINCE THE EIGHTIES LOOKING OLDER MORE MOODY AND CONSIDERABLY FATTER AND UGLIER ".in some cases skinnier and uglier!!! The net can be used to get to new sounds check out the threads in the audio section -thoushands and thousands of tunes not just northern-sweet-deep-gospel-funk-r/b etc,i dont beleive for one minute that these sounds been posted etc have kept me in the house -there have added to my collection and wants and in a way added to the enthusiasm and love for the music!!!The net is a tool but any scene is surely social -unless "YOU GEEK OUT IN THE HOUSE WITH YOUR NHS SPECS AND PLOT THE DOWNFALL OF THE BRITISH SOUL SCENE -dont think so -. BAZ A

HE WAS A TALENTED CHURCH SINGER-YET ANOTHER SOUL SINGER WHO STARTED AT AN EARLY AGE SINGING IN THE CHURCH -ALL OF HIS EXTENTED FAMILY WERE SOUTHERN AND HE SPEND HAPPY SUMMERS VISITING THEM IN SOUTH CAROLINA. TEDDY PENDERGRASS LIFE IS A SONG WORTH SINGING PIR - BAZ A