Baz Atkinson

ah the voice of reason Ian follow the link re the ipo office can only see wigan casino as a trademark registered once -and that was 09 -the registration invaraibly comes from companies because their have exempt liability legally from directors etc common sense and ofcourse its a lawyers dream and a punters nightmare -i dont think a moral case ie the right or wrong notion would come into this at all-it would rest on cash im afraid!! BAZ A PS WOULD OF LOVED A STUDIO CD ALL THAT LOVELY SAL-SOUL ETC!! As someone who spent £27K in litigation over a name I created (a case I lost by the way) that's probably pretty good advice Baz. The setting the trousers alight option could potentially be a bit tricky though...... I would imagine that Gerry Marshall's estate more than likely own the own the intellectual copyright and trade mark in Wigan Casino since it was his company which financed the operation and paid for everything in the first place. A court of law would find in their favour without a doubt - courts almost invariably find in the favour of the people who originally financed things unless there was a specific contract stating otherwise. I tried to do a Studio 54 album a few years ago and the road was littered with legal problems so it just wasn't worth the headache. I'd let sleeping dogs lie for a whole heap of reasons and they all cost money....... Ian D

just checked the ipo intellectual property office - please check it out folks if your curious as to the trademark question -ie wigan casino just pop it in their search engine - https://www.ipo.gov.uk/

there you go folks for those genuinely interested in looking at this objectively [perhaps i should remove the trouser comment lol] https://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law take out the personnel feelings and comments -ask who created the work-ask who is taking credit -???

urban expansions can go for breach of copyright -copyright is Copyright is the set of exclusive rights granted to the author or creator of an original work, including the right to copy, distribute and adapt the work. These rights can be licensed, transferred and/or assigned. Copyright lasts for a certain time period after which the work is said to enter the public domain. Copyright applies to a wide range of works that are substantive and fixed in a medium. Some jurisdictions also recognize "moral rights" of the creator of a work, such as the right to be credited for the work. while since i went to law school etc [oh yes tis true sadly but i was saved lol]but very costly -not that punitive -and a total minefield when it comes to determining a legal rememdy -my opinon of this is the moral rights argument presuming it came from russ would be fickle to say the least ?? Also what has the wigan casino trademark etc got to do with this?surely an action would be urban v winstanley unless he has been shrewd which would foggy the waters even more!! BAZ A. PAUL YOU CREATED SOMETHING WONDERFUL -YOUD SOON HAVE 10K EATEN UP ON THIS ETC SO JUST SET HIS TROUSERS ALIGHT WHEN YOU CATCH UP WITH HIM!!

thas interesting re 111 [cry] always had me suspicions that was cut elswhere-anyone got some of the line ups of the appreciations and the dramatics at the time ??? BAZ A THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS, SPORT 110, YOU DONT HAVE TO SAY YOU LOVE ME, MADE A BIT OF NOISE NATIONALLY SO WAS PICKED UP FOR NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION BY AMY/MALA/BELL, SO STRIKING WHILST THE IRON WAS RELITIVELY HOT THEY QUICKLY RELEASED THE FOLLOW UP SPORT 111, EASIER SAID THAN DONE...NOT REALISING THAT SPORT HAD ALREADY RELEASED 111 LOCALLY IN DETROIT. ALSO STRANGE THAT IT'S BETTER TO CRY SPORT 111 LOCAL RELEASE ISNT EVEN A DETROIT RECORDING HAVING BEEN RECORDED ON THEIR TRAVELS, WHERE IS NOT CERTAIN MAYBE BOBA OR SOMEBODY CAN TELL US. BRI PINCH

tis in refo-soul andy just check it out mate -gone up a bit in price hovering around 80 squid now -got most of mine for pennies in the early eighties -im pleased to say!! BAZ A

black and blue sold pending payment.

There other stone cold classic she never really loved me never gets the plaudits and its equally as brill with a bloody great great flip imo -place in my heart-out of all the sport releases this to me has best feel to it along with easier said than done [the brill intro] and really for a detroit cut from that time is not really indicative of the traditional drums in the background detroit realeases from the same areas at the time.No wonder the majors were gathering like vultures at the time!! BAZ A

yep id agree with Tony on that never seen many demos although sport put a a fair few out[ON OTHER DISCS]-tis a timeless classic this record !! BAZ A

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just pm me folks!! BAZ A

as above folks just pm me!! BAZ A

tis a top sound imho-have it on a sambler buddah ep -which i really aint seen that much -shes lets rip singing top of the mountain sure i put it in refo-soul!! BAZ A

very quiet today anyone help with the t wilson soundclip?? BAZ A

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thanks sebastian -looks like i need to get down here more often lol!! BAZ A

THE ORIG IS STYRENE MATE AS IS THE DEMO ATBM BAZ A

THANKS MATE!! BAZ A Baz, if nobody else obliges I'll put up whatever R & B Indies has first thing in the morning.

TIS A FUNNY OLD RECORD BUT YES THE BLUE ONE IS QUITE HARD, YOUNG ADAM LEAVER HAD ONE FOR SALE ABOUT 9 MONTHS BACK [DONT KNOW IF IT WENT PROBABLLY DID] -tis one of those discs i really like somedays then listen again and think its very average lol,really most sort my taste out lol!! BAZ A

anyone help -usually comes in the form of jaco or chalky lol,need a discog of this west coast logo -all help appreciated !! BAZ A

SOLD MY CUSTERS FOR 130 IF THAT HELPS !! BAZ A

will fit nice in the new motor this one-cant wait for it to come!! BAZ A

TIS A GREAT FLIP INDEED,INFACT MOST OF THE MANHATTANS TRACKS CAN BE FLIPPED OVER-JUST SUPERB!!! BAZ A thanks for this baz, just love the flip... i betcha....

rivingtons sold pending payment.