Blackpoolsoul

The thanks should go to you buddy as well, for asking. What I love about these threads is info and brains getting together, making headway (and mistakes) and resolving history for future's sake. I say "bring it on" the more the merrier

I was looking into Kent & The Candidates and read that they appeared in The Hill Top Club in Atchison which was destroyed by fire in June 1966 https://ilovestjosephmo.com/st-joseph-mo-photos/the-hilltop-in-atchison/ I loved the advert when they reopened (under the date) Oh and Kent & The Candidates were supposed to be behind "Gimme Little Sign" ? The release sheet says performed with (perhaps someone knows if they were the backing band ?) Does anyone other artists that performed there ?

So sad to hear that Laurence Inkatha has passed on FB Most of you will most likely remember rushing to the dance floor at some stage in your dancing days or filling the floor in your DJ'ing days

Was listening to the LP Carl Holmes Investigation and noticed that "Tramp" in Germany who reissued it (I noticed they had used the Publishing Company "Tramp" from the LP on C.R.S. as the same name 😀 brilliant) The notes drew me to Discogs and they quoted that Len Woods is an alias of Carl ? Tramp appeared not to know ? (please read below), unless Discogs have it wrong? Carl “Sherlock” Holmes started gigging in the early sixties forming Carl Holmes & the Commanders with whom he recorded a full length album for Atlantic in 1962 entitled Twist Party At The Roundtable. Later on he recorded a couple of 45’s for the Parkway and Verve labels. In May of 1966 a pre-Experience Jimi Hendrix gigged with the group but never recorded with them. After a final 45 for the local Philly label Black Jack, the group disbanded and Carl formed the Sherlock Holmes Investigation a solid outfit backed by a strong rhythm section packed with congas, vibes, flute, organ and sax. Philly’s Sigma Sound Studio was the place they recorded their sole album and Curtis R. Staten’s CRS Records was the label that released it. This album has it all! Smokin funk breaks in Black Bag, Investigation, Get Down Philly Town, It Ain't Right and some syncopated latin-inspired jams in Modesa. All these coupled nicely by some fine mellow numbers in Close To You, Think It Over and Your Game . And all but one (Bacharach/David's Close To You) written by a guy named Len Woods, a remarkable songwriter, no doubt! https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/album/investigation-no-1 Anyway, there are some more releases on Discogs and 45cat that are not currently connected, which is why I wanted to start this thread and get some help please Is Carl actually Sherlock and Len, or just another guy ? And if this has been covered please take me there

A website I found http://www.budrossinc.com/disco

A write up from 1967 cashbox Seriously !!!!! mentions Goodway and Cap City in same section Am I going mad (again) with the Silhouettes (Segue and Goodway) connection, surely total and utter coincidence of the highest order

Thanks Dave it is a shame we can't ID the guys (apart from David Morris) in the photo, maybe someone will 😇 That Acetate is a beauty

You Tube TBF and your find is excellent, thanks. What page please ?

Did you see the notes above, about the line up Dave please ?

The Lovations consisted of Penny and Crystal Wilson, and the Saxons sisters. Apparently, their 45s were recorded with Pittsburgh jazz muscians including Nelson Harrison (Trombone), George Green (Sax), Butch Martin (Piano), Chad

I never met Russ, is his real surname Winstanley as we passed the place in Wigan a few months back and that's a great coincidence ? I agree and bet it was going to be released but never got the airplay so shelved. Oh to find a box full

I imagine a bit of tweaking will do wonders Original version on side A and remix Side B

You are correct as all the write ups have suggested more members than in the photo, which is David Morris and four others which does not add up anyway (it would be Dave Morris and 5 others if you add Don Hogan, Tommy Ricks, Cleveland Hammock and Cliff and James Dunn.) Unless someone missed the photoshoot. If Doug Banks was one of them then 2 are missing I assume that all the others copied the info and perhaps Dave Moore can give his opinion

Good read this with Major living in Southend and 1973 pops up and the drugs thing "He told me that the good times at OKeh ended when Columbia, the parent label, wanted Carl Davis and his artists to move their operation to New York. Davis refused, stayed put, and started his own label, Dakar (which would do well with Tyrone Davis and Hamilton Bohannon). “It had a lot to do with jealousy inside the company,” Lance said, “and problems that could have been solved but weren’t.”" (You know how when someone sets up a Soul night, so someone else then does ? Sounds a bit like The Motown move being copied or vice versa ?) "Later in his life, Major hit hard times. He stayed with Contempo for a couple of years, touring the Northern Soul clubs, and then went home, where he recorded for Playboy, his own Osiris imprint and Soul, the Motown subsidiary. He served a jail term for cocaine possession, lost most of his sight, and died in 1994." Artists, talent, ego, fame (and sometimes drugs) 😭 https://thebluemoment.com/2017/07/05/remembering-major-lance/

Brilliant Andy, thanks and how did I miss this ? (age and stupidity me thinks are taking hold) http://doo-wop.blogg.org/the-dreamlovers-a129076088

That doesn't matter now about Dave's source and thanks so much This from 2006 American Singing Groups: A History from 1940s to Today By Jay Warner

I haven't got his book, does it quote his source ?

Blimey that is so interesting, have you a source please ?

If this has been covered before please direct me as I could not see it Apart from David, can anyone please shed some "light" as to the missing members please ?

Dave

Outta sight reissued both Freddie and Dave in 2018 so they "must" know What a fantastic question m8, it appears that some have Dave Nunez as this guy, including me

Just a quirky thing and caused me all sorts of confusion until I accepted it

Bootlegs should be thrown in a skip and sent to another planet People who buy them may see them as reissues and not even realise they are counterfeits Some purchase hoping to play them at gigs and get away with it as they can't afford originals Some people are just daft

Different press ✤ = Decca or MCA Pressing Plant, Gloversville