Sean Hampsey

I'd be surprised if it was played at the Casino. Possible for Searling but then I get the venues mixed up and might be thinking of his sets at Rotherham. I am sure Mark Freeman from Nuneaton would know since he tried to amass every tune ever played there.

Agree Steve. I'm only half sure and that's cos I'm basing it on the fact that Richard's sets were obviously very similar at both venues.

Do you agree that there seems to be a 'revived' interest in records from this era, right now?

Bring back Blackbeat I say!

Sean

What early 80's sounds are getting played?

Big interest in recent times in things such as:

Bileo 'You Can Win'

Curtis ' How Can I Tell Her'

Johnny Scott - Let Me Be A Winner

Tony Fox - Love Let Love And Be Loved

Pretenders - Just Be Yourself

Reuben Howell - Can't Stop A Man In Love

Rideout - Someone Special

Along with High Feequency

It was seen as a 'forgotten period' for many years, but certainly seems to be renewed interst in the sounds from this era.

Sean

Can't believe for a minute it was played at Mr M's although pretty sure I recall it being played in the main room in the final months of Wigan.

Sean

So was I 

Not so sure though Martin.

I know the others were at Clifton before me but I doubt they would have played this particular record any sooner, as I think we all got them from the same source (Arthur) around the same time.

I certainly remember hammering it at the KGB and Windmill while it was still very hot and then at Clifton, Cleggy, Bradford etc... soon after

It's an interesting point though. The truth is (and I'm not sure it can be said nowadays) quite a few of us would be playing many of the same sounds at the same time.

Guess that's how they came to be so massive!

And even more interesting to see how there seems to be a 'revived' interest in records from this era, right now.

Sean

Would have thought that Poke, Steve Mannion & Pat Brady were playing it well before you were added to the line up Sean.

Wasn't saying (or claiming) anything else was I Martin?

Was just stating a fact.

Sean

Off with man flu mate so won't be there. Have half a dozen for me

Sean

Hi mate, Yep me too. Full of covers.

Hope you're well.... Sober... Recovered

Raisins was 'I Take It To My Baby' on Major Minor John.

Sean

I played it regularly at (probably every) Clifton Hall, KGB, Cleethorpes after buying it from Arthur. Would have thought a couple of us had it there. A massive record in South Yorkshire at the time.

Sean

Yep, back then folk on the UK Modern scene just didn't realise that Ivan Neville was simply 'The Neville Brothers'.

Sean

I remember Richard did play records that were brought up to the decks sometimes .Was stood up there on two occasions when Mick Smith brought up records to play ,Eddie Parker on Awake [ Richard said " I remember this from The Torch ] and Frankie Beverley " Because of my heart " , which was a Rouser copy I recall .So maybe the same thing happened with Tommy Ridgeley ?

Yep, I think that's most probably what happened here Eddie.

Back then with so many new things turning up it was a regular occurence. I remember taking Shirley Karol 'Just To Make You Happy' on Dakar to an early Wigan and asking one of the DJ's (can't remember which one) to play it. It was dismissed immediately as 'too funky'... and he might well have been right for the time.

So multiply that situation over the months and years I guess it's easy to see how Tommy Ridgely got lost in the fog, as someone elses 'Bobby Robinson' cover up.

Sean

"b) The charity can pursue the recipient for the value of the assets."

 

Really ?  Difficult to see on what legal basis the charity would have an action against the recipient ,  unless the recipient had prior notice or knowledge of the provisions of the will and in particular the specific bequest to the charity.

 

 

That's precisely the situation.

The recipient obtained the assets fraudulently, effectively by claiming to be acting on behalf of the charity.

Sean

Thanks Sean you confirmed what I thought.

 

What a thankless task it is being the executor of even a fairly straightforward will. Hours and days of work and stress and then you can still be sued if you mess up. You would barely wish it on your worst enemy.

That's true mate.

Good luck with it all.

Sean

Would be nice if Nickw would share on here.

 

Might be nothing to do with the executors of the guy's estate. But I'm an executor of a will myself at the moment. This got me wondering what would happen if I sold something way below its real value? Could the beneficiaries sue me? Way off topic . . . but food for thought . . .

Yes, the beneficiaries could sue for negligence. That's not to say that they would win, but they could sue.

A colleague is currently investigating a similar situation.

A friend passed away leaving his assets to a charity. The executor 'gave away' some of these assets completely against the wishes of the deceased's written will.

The recipient has since sold these assets.

The charity has recourse against both parties for losses incurred.

Available recourse includes a) The charity can sue the executor for negligence b) The charity can pursue the recipient for the value of the assets.

The executor has significant responsibilities to ensure that the wishes of the deceased are carried out in accordance with the will and to make sure that the recipients receive what is due to them.

Sean

On BBC Radio 2 this very second on Tony Blackburn's Chicago Soul special!

Sean

Yep - £14,543.00

Further to the above, I was talking to Richard this afternoon and this is what he had to say regarding Pete's recording:-

"This is becoming a bit like the Twilight Zone.....

I've seen the thread, which is great stuff, initiated by Pete Smith.

On last Sunday's Solar show I denied ever playing the song HOWEVER it is me back announcing it as 'Bobby Robinson' back on September 29th 1979 at the Casino.

Did I have it covered up...or was it another "Handwritings on the wall" ,ie a white test press with just a title and no artist?

Pete S is 100 % adamant it was played in my set that night....was it handed to be by a collector who wanted me to test it out perhaps?

I would not normally ever have done that though, unless the collector was well known to me for knowing what was what?

So, to summarise - yes I played it, but crucially I did not say it was by Tommy Ridgeley.....odd?

I suppose it maybe could have cleared the floor and I sold it on quickly?

I'm getting dizzy here with all the possibilities!!

Have a great Christmas everyone and remember my show on Solar Radio, Sky Channel 0129 Sundays 16:00 - 18:00"

So there you have it. Richard doesn't recall playing it back then, but its clear that he did.

He wasn't familiar with the record, it was covered up, hence the 'fade in' and back announcement.

And as has been suggested, it possibly may not have been his record.

Cheers,

Sean

No mate I'd stopped going by then!

It's an interesting one.

Richard was playing Rotherham back then and I never heard it played there.

Morecambe must have been 3 years later... and I don't think I heard Sam play it until at least late 80's.

It's all obscured by the fog of time....

Ah BUT...you can hear a few people clapping to the intro so they must have known it!

Maybe some did Pete. Do you remember it being played /covered as 'Bobby Robinson'?

Further to the above, I've just been talking to Richard and this is what he had to say regarding Pete's recording:-

"This is becoming a bit like the Twilight Zone.....

I've seen the thread, which is great stuff, initiated by Pete Smith.

On last Sunday's Solar show I denied ever playing the song HOWEVER it is me back announcing it as 'Bobby Robinson' back on September 29th 1979 at the Casino.

Did I have it covered up...or was it another "Handwritings on the wall" ,ie a white test press with just a title and no artist?

Pete S is 100 % adamant it was played in my set that night....was it handed to be by a collector who wanted me to test it out perhaps?

I would not normally ever have done that though, unless the collector was well known to me for knowing what was what?

So, to summarise - yes I played it, but crucially I did not say it was by Tommy Ridgeley.....odd?

I suppose it maybe could have cleared the floor and I sold it on quickly?

I'm getting dizzy here with all the possibilities!!

Have a great Christmas everyone and remember my show on Solar Radio, Sky Channel 0129 Sundays 16:00 - 18:00"

So there you have it. Richard doesn't recall playing it back then, but its clear that he did.

He wasn't familiar with the record, it was covered up, hence the 'fade in' and back announcement.

Cheers,

Sean

STEVE - LISTEN BELOW

 

tommy.mp3

Pretty conclusively Richard there...

Sounds to me as though he referred to it with a c/u title?

Sean

We played this off the LP only as a new release. Was many years later before we knew it was on 45. Last I sold was around £80. A pretty scarce record and I wouldnt let mine go for much less than £100.

Sean