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  1. There really are literally hundreds and hundreds of venues playing all tempos and across the board, probably 90% of events on Soul Source. By me I can usually choose from about 8-10 events a weekend, within an hour but to be honest there's not much to distinguish them and I go for the one with the cleanest dancefloor. There's probably less than a dozen playing uptempo all night (or even the majority of the night), Grosvenor Rooms, Wigan Empire, Sherwood Forest, The Boat, Willington, Macclesfield, Macabre Soul, Lea Hall, some of them are occasional. Please do keep it up, it would be a shame for everything to turn out the same.
  2. You clearly can't please all the people all the time. If it was 100mph it'd be a fixture in my calendar.
  3. Hit the nail on the head there. I never collected soul - used to buy Kent albums in the 80's but only because you got more tunes for your money, I didn't particularly look after them either. It turns out though that I did collect records in other genres, and a hell of a lot of stuff I bought mail-order or in small specialist record shops in the 80's and 90's for well under a tenner is now in the high teens and hundreds. Now rare-ish records I bough in the Virgin megastore for £6.99 are sometimes fetching £100 +. Collectors mainly seem to be in the US and Japan but also all over Europe and I guess at the time they had no access to this stuff. The only regret I have is how much stuff in the 90's I part-exed or sold to friends usually for beer money! And being a relative youngster I was seduced by CD's and stopped buying any vinyl around 91.
  4. Butch if you're down south, if you're in the Midlands John Weston, Martin Farmer, Les Norman, Dave Rimmer, Ted Massey, Sean Chapman, Ashley Fellows, up northJordan Wilson has some interesting stuff. If you want basically the top 500 almost anyone.
  5. I've been to a few events and nearly all were down on numbers from pre-pandemic. Since the last Stoke All-nighter I've been unlucky enough to catch Covid - three weeks on still got no energy so giving it a miss because although I'm out of the self-isolation period I'm still coughing quite a bit.
  6. It's a complex market, BITD the only way to hear a record was to buy it; so simple supply and demand - the demand was for a track, more supply reduced demand and therefore cost. Follows the normal laws of economics. Now the added complexity is that originals are bought by collectors either for love, for investment or to DJ with. The presence or not of a reissue won't affect the first two and may affect the third depending on where they're DJing. This is an almost completely different market to the "average" punter who may just want to hear a song now and again. In this case a range of issues come into play - how tech savvy they are, how bothered about "owning" something, how much they want to listen to it. I'd say the presence of a reissue would influence this market quite a lot but even this will be age related, younger people who aren't into the particular morals of a scene will just listen on Spotify or rip an MP3 off YouTube and not be so fussed with having a physical object.
    This is always a bit of a polarising event, there are a lot quick to jump on it on social media as an example of how the scene is going down the drain, but it ticks all the boxes. There are three crucial elements to any do - the venue, the music and the crowd (obviously, but stick with me). As a venue this is absolutely second to none, the architecture, the acoustics, the atmosphere, the dance floor just cannot be faulted; the staff are OK and apart from minor niggles like catering and queues at the bar (which aren't really an issue at all) it's all good, hell they even put jugs of ice water out for people! The music reflects what's going on with the world, fair range of DJs and styles, who can criticise Sean Chapman, Mark Freeman and Ted Massey? The latter even throwing in Bernadine and a few other neverplayeds; again on the negative side both House For Sale and I Wanna Give You Tomorrow made an appearance in the main room - but we all need a toilet break at some point (eh Andrew ). Sound system is about as perfect as you can get - I've heard a hell of a lot worse and the record screens are great, you can actually read them unlike a few other places. Finally the crowd, well what can you say, there's a mix of people, all ages, from across the country. Mix of backgrounds but many regular faces on the scene, half a dozen dancers from the rest of this year's all-nighters were there. Perhaps more spillages on the dancefloor and corridors than you'd like but again the staff are on it straightaway, but it's far, far from a handbag event. You could end up sitting next to some drinkers but hey, post lockdown you gotta do what you gotta do - alcohol has certainly helped me get through it. As other people have said in the past, this won't be here forever and when it's gone there's not much else that comes close on all fronts. I like how dark it is too, good excuse for my sketches being "impressionistic" (crap ), didn't finish the DJ one and then my pens started running out.
  7. Was it this bunch though? They had a big operation and they'd be less likely to get caught if they booted fairly common stuff rather than risk rare stuff that'd get them caught easier? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46393631
  8. Do you mean this one? Full SAW treatment. Or perhaps this?
  9. It is crushed rock - very finely crushed, so will grind away at the surface although if the floor is dry most will not cause that much damage. If it becomes wet and is ground in by moving feet it would do more but mostly it would be on the surface (varnish) rather than the wood itself. I know of one club owner who's main objection was that it was left to the club's cleaners to vacuum it all up the next day and they were complaining that it got into all the furniture and carpets and so took them loads longer to clean up.
  10. I'm not having a go but I do wonder why you are asking? Some people splash it around everywhere but it really depends on 1. How you dance and 2. What the floor is like. If you shuffle, slide and glide then you need a friction free floor but if it's clean, polished, sprung maple wood, say, and you've got leather soles you'll have no problem. On the other hand if it's lino or vinyl or worse still painted concrete you might just need talc in order to unstick your feet. Other people still jump more or wear trainers in which case talc is pretty pointless. Worst dancefloor I ever saw was a sort of vinyl safety flooring, the type with non-slip aggregates in it. Plus it was in a basement so condensation was dripping onto it - total nightmare it was wet and sticky; didn't seem to bother some people though. Two best dance floors in Notts I can think of are Sherwood Forest at Bilsthorpe and Grosvenor Rooms, Sutton In Ashfield. Neither need any talc.
  11. Not sure if you can draw any conclusions but I've been to 6 events and not heard of any infections. A work colleague in her 20's has been to a couple of gigs and got "pinged" twice within 7 days. Both times she got a negative PCR test after being pinged and she's double jabbed too anyway. I'm guessing it's the age group difference though? She also went to two weddings and a hen do in Brighton but nothing from them.
  12. Thank you, glad someone read them I've got a few tickets - Wigan Empire and Ian Levine in Hednesford coming up so I'll go to those at least.
    Booked this a while back basically on the grounds of it being a Town Hall, the DJ line up was pretty decent too though so it was worth a punt. Well it turned out pretty darn good - the venue isn't massive, as Town Halls go it was pretty tiny and as a result it was packed. Dancefloor was great though and a variety of tunes. Major disappointment of the night for me was getting there at about 9 to hear I've Only Got Myself To Blame fading away (title says it all!) my fault for not getting there for 8. Still some good stuff and Ashley always delivers, you often find with "new" venues that promoters and DJ's play it safe by playing to the floor but that wasn't really the case tonight. People had travelled from the Black Country as well as Birmingham and Worcs so quite a few faces there. Sketches were a bit off, nowhere to sit at first and then that beautiful ceiling confused me! Overall a surprisingly great venue though, worth another go, just hope they keep it fresh and interesting.
  13. Very good point, I think you're absolutely spot-on, lockdown for me as with many others has been a "life" event. Reminds me of the 90's I had a bad car crash in '92, got made redundant in '94 (just after buying our first house) and then again in '95. All of which coincided with an almost total loss of interest in music which had probably been the major thing in my life before then. This sort of feels the same in a weird way.
  14. An enforced departure can change your whole perspective on things. Been to three local nights, a one off, a new venue and an all-nighter so far. First three just didn't grab me, I just didn't feel it, the one off was OK as was the new venue, the all-nighter was great but I don't think I'll be bothering too much for a while. Got used to staying in and having a drink instead.
  15. Well that's certainly interesting but all it literally means is that he founded a limited company a year after he was found guilty and that the company is still registered. They've not filed any accounts yet so it may well be dormant and it could be a legit company and he's going straight. Starting and running Limited Companies in this country is pretty lightly regulated and even if someone's banned from being a company director (which I don't believe he was?) there's nothing to stop them opening another one in the name of their spouse or brother or a friend as I've seen a few times. Certainly one to watch though!
    Great to see this one back. The first (?) one at this venue was the penultimate event I went to before the first lockdown so 17 months later, older and wiser, it seemed almost surreal to return; as if none of this had happened! Not a big place but nice set up, close to the Town Centre (if you can find it) and decent sound. No real surprises but great sets all round, sadly I missed Ted Wilson early in the night, the first hour and a half was live-streamed. Two legendary Birmingham DJ's and not a bad track played. Last time I came the dance floor was a bit 'sticky' but they've sorted that out and it was excellent, no black gunge on your shoes at all. Nice crowd too. I've drawn bugger all for the last 17 months so was quite pleased how these two turned out and didn't make the mistake I did last week of taking a bright blue pen and not realising in the dark that it wasn't grey. It's now monthly and, if it gets the support, long may it continue.
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  16. Always like a nice Town/Civic Hall type building, Kings Hall Stoke, Sheffield City Hall, Birmingham Town Hall, Kidderminster Town Hall, Darlaston Town Hall. They usually have a massive dance floor, usually rather subdued lighting, great acoustics and there's nothing like the backdrop of a big pipe organ behind the DJ. There's a couple of ex-churches (one in Burton, can't remember the name?) too which have a great interior. In a venue like that the quality of the music isn't so crucial, even mediocre tunes echoing around have impact.
  17. It's on at 18 Showcase Cinemas across the country this Friday, mostly between 2 and 3 in the afternoon though what a rubbish time, might have to take the afternoon off work https://www.showcasecinemas.co.uk/film-info/summer-of-soul?fbclid=IwAR2lcVm0K32c7zPa2O1YntbdQ193yNYTU_gA6QB2APMjyl4qYPnEzFaFFyo
  18. Sounds like a lot of things that there were multiple threads all involving the word "soul" and all pointing to the "north" of England or the UK and they just came together at some point. There's an interesting story in one of Bill Bryson's books about the origin of the hamburger - there are two restaurants in New York that both claim to have been the first to serve it but he points out that the first mention in print in a newspaper somewhere didn't refer to either and the context makes it clear that it was not a new thing but something that was generally known about. I think my point is that by the time the phrase was first written down in a magazine (or on a patch) it was probably fairly well known already by word of mouth.
  19. That's what was said on the other thread. On the other hand they were a (British) soul band, which demonstrates that there was arguably some kind of "soul scene" in the North whereas in the south maybe it was more mixed in with R&B, blues, psych and early rock.
  20. Found it: "My dad 'Cliff Clifford' was secretary of the Otis Redding Appreciation Society and he went on to be a Saturday helper at Dave Godin's Soul City store in Covent Garden in London. They used to get all these football fans from the north coming down to London on a Saturday asking for uptempo records with a Motown kind of beat whether they were new or old records. My dad had a brainwave and scrawled 'Northern Soul' on the boxes where they kept the records for these people coming down from the north of England. That moment of inspiration started it all off" Paul Clifford - Northern Soul Stories, Neil Rushton 2009
  21. There are two other documented theories: One is in Neil Rushton's book and states that it was an employee of Dave Godin's. I'll get it out of the loft. The other is from a poster for the Manchester soul band St. Louis Union in 1965 which apparently billed them as "THE Group in the Northern Soul Scene". Although that's further disputed here:
  22. Never watched this programme but a friend told me about it. History of Oxford Bags, nothing new - clips of Wigan Casino from This England, interview with Kev Roberts though! https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000wwdm/the-great-british-sewing-bee-series-7-episode-9


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