Soulsides

Well I respect your opinion although i seriously doubt that being extremely passionate about a certain genre of music and having a 'them against us' mentality is the singular, exclusive domain of a bunch of Northern Soul fanatics.. you're misguided if you truly think like that,there's a whole set of people who live this stuff literally 24 hours a day..not just at 'weekends' or 'nighters'..i'm talking every day of the week,year in, year out..there's dudes I know who run small independent record labels who work tirelessly to get the music they believe in out there. I also highly doubt you'll find many people who are more 'driven by music' than myself and many other people I know for that matter who actually go out and make music for a living for example. For lots of these folks music isn't something they choose to call a hobby like collecting and going out dancing to records..it's so much more than that, it's a way of life, in fact.

Yeah,you are wrong, ...although there's nothing actually erm wrong with your comment and I admire your passion! Music's a universal thing, it's a language which truly unites people..go to a block party in the Bronx and marvel at the folks breakdancing while the DJs cut up some heavyweight 70s Funk tracks or even the Heavy Metal kids who love to mosh and headbang...it's absolutely wonderful to see how much these kids love the music and like yourself, they believe they're part of something very special which 'outsiders' just do not get and more to the point, will never understand .

Excellent stuff..thanks for posting,Shufflin! Apologies Source team, I cant seem to display the YT video as just a link for some reason.

Maybe whoever put the record on top of the fryer was thinking.. 'Do I Lard You?.. Indeed I Do!

You're not wrong there..I could easily list a couple of hundred 45s off the bat! Are we allowed to change our minds next week, hehe ? Anyway, as we're only dreaming...:) Id like a copy of this 45 'Quit Jive'In' by Pearly Queen on the Sound Triangle label. The last original copy I saw sold for around £850 I think..I only have a vinyl reissue on a compilation album,alas. You can literally smell the grease on this.. Another original I'd dearly love to own is Baby Don't Cry by The Third Guitar featuring Eddie Holloway, released on the Rojac label in 1968..again I only have a reissue copy. Theres two copies of this record up for sale on Discogs at the moment for £300 which isn't a massive amount in terms of collecting admittedly but it's a no from me at present, unfortunately.. https://youtu.be/kRcg4QGwAl4 Great looking label..:) Last up is this, 'Has Time Really Changed' by Communicators and Black Experience Band on Tri Oak records from 1974 . The A sides totally naff in my option but I actually want this for the flipside, which is a track called 'The Road' ..a seriously hot slab of Funk I first heard on the 'Funk Spectrum' lp that Keb Darge and Josh Davis put out around 1999. I've seen a couple for sale at around £500'. https://youtu.be/k6FQuy1fvGY The Funk Spectrum album also contains a track by The Second Amendment Band called 'Backtalk parts 1&2' which absolutely blew me away.. Keb Darge first heard the track through Mark Butch Dobson if I recall correctly and who I know has a lor of admirers on this forum and quite rightly so too!...I know both of those fellas are legends of the NS scene and if either of them ever happen to find themselves reading this thread I'd like a say a massive thanks! https://youtu.be/6443WG4_4WI Original https://www.discogs.com/The-2nd-Amendment-Band-Backtalk/release/4237736 Reissue.. Edit: I've never Googled this record before btw so hopefully this isn't a boot. https://www.discogs.com/The-2nd-Amendment-Band-Backtalk/release/677442

Great choice..The whole albums really good, imo..it's been getting a fair bit of rotation around my way! My drink of choice has been this lately, £1.25 from Asda and very nice indeed it is too..

Academy Records Annex in Greenpoint,Brooklyn is supposedly a very good place for finding Soul music...there's two other Academy Records shops but the Annex is apparently the one if you're on the lookout for vinyl.

Picked this one up a couple of years ago,.. a splendid slice of Gospel infused Bluesy Soul from The Como Mamas released on Daptone Records 2014. https://www.discogs.com/The-Como-Mamas-Out-Of-The-Wilderness/release/6032912

Got to respectfully disagree with you there im afraid...I'd heard about this particular record but had never listened to it until yesterday..I thought it was a great little tune tbh and the b sides a belter too! Another one from me.. the late, great Charles Bradley. https://www.discogs.com/Charles-Bradley-Changes-Aint-It-A-Sin/release/5144350

Colemine Records 2016 release. Soul Scratch ' Pacified' Limited Edition, Clear Vinyl still available. https://www.discogs.com/Soul-Scratch-Pacified-Look-How-Far-Weve-Come/release/8576609

There's a lot of new stuff that I've really enjoyed over the last few years..labels such as Hope Street,Big Crown and Record Kicks etcetera along with loads of more left field sounding, independently produced music. I've been caning the new Lee Fields & The Expressions lp 'It Rains Love' which is out now on Big Crown...a very nice record in my opinion. Full album on YouTube. https://youtu.be/DqEAx0xLVHA This is a record that I keep coming back to..its not rare,but its a newer release that's gotten a bit of love from the people over the last few years that I've played it for. Released in 2013..hope im not breaking the rules,hehe.. Nice thread,will post more as it progresses! A few copies on Discogs https://www.discogs.com/Zillanova-Suicide-The-Time-It-Takes/release/4806077

Yeah,I believe it's the same producers,Paul Hunter and Colin Gate who are responsible for both records although I don't ever recall hearing the track you've posted until now. Pretty contrasting tunes in terms of their structure too!

Dopeness..love that track! Playlist from last night. Mark V Unlimited -Gone The Two Things In One-Over Dose Brother Soul-Do It Good Will Sessions feat Ricky Calloway-The Jump Back The Mello Decisions-Mello Decision The Daktaris-Eltsuhg Ibal Lasiti Ikebe Shakedown Hard Steppin Ripple-Get Off Tortilla Factory-Cookin' Third Coast Kings-Give Me Your Love Pearly Queen-Superstar St Vincents Latinaires-Broasted Or Fried Nina Simone-Funkier Than A Mosquitos Tweeter Nico Gomez-Ritual Deep Sensation-Harlem & 42nd Street The Budos Band-Ride Or Die Brownout-Fight The Power General Lee-Magic (Part 1 &2)

Some info here on Discogs,Ken. https://www.discogs.com/Eyes-Of-Blue-Up-And-Down-Heart-Trouble/release/13073813

PM sent,Steve! 2010 release from the Third Coast Kings on the Record Kicks label

Respectfully disagree...there's tons of new music out there!..I can't keep up with the amount of good stuff i've heard lately. It all depends what you're into though at the end of the day I guess.. I also get a lot of new music through places like BandCamp and SoundCloud now where there's some very talented folks doing all manner of cool stuff..I find something interesting literally every time I use those sites and it's well worth the time having a dig around on there in my opinion.

Well,there's a lot of factors to consider..a large percentage of it depends on the recording costs because studio time is, on the most part expensive,and especially when it comes to recording bands so the quicker the work can be done the better it is for those musicians involved in terms of costs. Obviously the cost of studio time needs to be recouped by record sales along with any additional fees that incur during the making of the record. Another factor would be whether it's done 'in house'..does the label have it's own recording facilities with a staff producer and engineer, or is the music put together at an outside studio? You’ll also probably require the services of marketing, PR, and radio plugging specialists, as well as the support of a distributor. This sort of help doesn’t come cheap as all of those independent promotion costs are charged to the band,(in most cases) Indie labels produce and distribute about 66% of music titles, but only account for 20% of actual sales although the real truth is, many major label artists don’t make a lot of money from record sales either, sure, if you sell 11 million records in the end you’ll have a full wallet, but for many who sell only 500,000 copies (a big achievement in its own right) the money they make isn’t even enough to buy a Honda Civic. This is what many music lovers fail to see, and who can blame them? Unless you know about the music business (which 99% of people in the world don’t) you won’t realize how little money an artist actually gets even if they are the songwriters of the material found on the record. Let’s break it down. In the making of a record here are the key players and the percentage of sales that they get, Artist (6.6%) Producer (2.2%) Songwriters (4.5%) Distributor (22%) Manufacturing (5%) Retailer (30%) Record label (30%). While these figures are an approximation, they come pretty damn close to the real thing. Now let’s put this to work, again these are all approximated numbers, but you’ll get the idea. Let’s say the record cost between 10 & 15 grand in total to record and produce ( thats for an album not a single track btw) a standard average for the smaller labels and is for sale in stores at £10 and that you are a band of 4 that also writes their own material. Your deal is to receive a royalty rate of around 11%, (but your producer also takes 3% of that) Now let’s say as an artist they sell 5,000 copies at £10 each,so that means they have £50,000 coming to them, right? Nope. Let’s see what else is taken off. In many cases the record label will take another 15% which is deducted for promotional and review costs. Of course record deals and artist royalties differ from contract to contract,the hotter you are prior to signing the better your deal and royalty rate, also note that retailers benefit less nowadays as the price to make a record hasnt changed all that much, yet album prices in stores are getting lower. Do not take the calculations above at face value. They are merely there to give you an idea of how little artists used to make and much less they do today..you can flip numbers however you like, but realise that virtually all record labels, always have something to account for. Just breaking even can be seriously hard work for musicians..I suppose the good news is that if you're signed to a label like Colemine ,who claim to do what they do out of love ,not just for profit,anything above that amount is considered as a financial bonus.

Well,if its rare its rare..why would a bootleg cheapen that?..It's always gonna be the original that any serious collector will want at the end of the day . 45's..the crack cocaine of record collecting, hehe..

One here sold several years ago for $225 https://www.popsike.com/php/m-detaildata.php?itemnr=320633903686 Yep, this is definitely the type of record DJ Shadow would sample for sure.

Absolutely!..I released an E.P. two weeks ago but I may have to P.M.you a link to it Mark due to the fact that I wouldn't wish to use this site as a promotional tool and for copyright reasons also.

This one, Pete? Its a nice enough track, BUT someone really does need to show this Ashley Beedle fella how to properly E.Q. those drum samples in a mix in my opinion!..

Yep.I honestly do,although that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Give me a few hours with my samplers,some generic sounding computer plugins to replicate those 808 or 909 drum machine kicks and Basslines etcetera (you don't even need the original hardware devices anymore now) and recording gear and I'll happily prove it, too! Again, I want to stress that I don't dislike House music but the concept of putting this stuff together from a production point of view is very simple indeed if you have both the tools and the know how. Honestly,If I wanted to make a fast buck I'd be all over House music production like a rash but I'm not a sell out and so I'll stick with what I do already, making the type of music I believe in which is influenced by all the things I appreciate be it Soul, Funk, Fusion, World Music or whatever.

Or just maybe,on the other hand, you'll hear significantly less in it each time you listen. People are free to enjoy what they like and I'm absolutely fine with that, but I'm sorry, I could produce records like this in my sleep, there is nothing remotely remarkable about House music production whatsoever..its the musical equivalent of painting by numbers if you know how to do it, basically. I may also give the impression I don't care for it but i actually don't dislike House music, there's been some great sounding House & Techno that's been put out over the years and I've been to plenty of raves and seen countless DJs spinning the music, but whenever I hear terms bandied about like 'Soulful' or 'Funky' House I completely despair to be honest and what this stuff has to do with 'modern' Soul music I just don't get at all i'm afraid.

Think there's an official announcement planned for tomorrow as far as I understand,Chris. Sad news,a very talented singer and way too young to go at 48. RIP.

@Michael Bailey Hahaha..brilliant! Your comment genuinely made me laugh out loud ...