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Ha! I always wondered about that. Good info. Thanks.

I don't get it??? Why advertise it to the World there's a UK issue, until you've got one . . . . or is that it, you've got one and are now advancing it's value? You little tinker AJ

What About The Music - Billy Harner plus I'm sure, hundreds of others.

And that's big on the Funk scene you say? All's I can say is that Funk sure has changed from what I understood it to be. And you're correct, it is quite messy and as you also say, difficult to get your feet around. Now I've seen you dance in Oslo but couldn't imagine you dancing to this one. So why the £3000 price tag? Is it some kind of 'requirement' to have in your DJ box? No offence intended here so please don't take any. Just curious.

Now THIS has been a great thread to follow. Well done Missy!!!

I like Mik's view on instrumentals here and I now think I understand how it is that we are agreeing to disagree. My perspective comes more from an R&B standpoint, like Mik's I think, rather than a Soul / Northern Soul standpoint. He is 'in tune' with what most of you were trying to say when he said, "don't think the traditional Northern Soul song structure & beat is the best format for them to work. They nearly always sound like a vocal's missing to me." I wish I had said that 'cos he's mostly correct, although there are some instrumentals that transcend the need for vocals / lyrics in my opinion, and a few others too, when they mention some of the wonderful instrumentals quoted earlier in this thread. So, thanks Mik for clearing that matter up but I guess somebody will disagree and we'll probably start the whole thing all over again. I hope not. But it has been a good discussion so, well done that person who started this topic off in the first place. I think you should finish off this thread with some final words of your own on the matter. Have a brilliant Easter everybody. I fly back home to the UK tomorrow for a whole week with family, friends, good sounds (instrumental and vocal ), proper food, and decent beer at an affordable price . . . . . can't wait.

'WHAT?' .............a touch hard of hearing are we? No? It's an expression of surprise. 'Why would it be so painful to play a set of instrumentals?'................the pain is that I feel deep inside, the wasted opportunity to lay a quality soul vocal over a searing 4/4 northern back beat. So, you NEVER play instrumentals at all??? So, what gives with all this purastistical rubbish about Soul music deriving it's direction and 'meaning' from the lyrics?................if thats the question you'll NEVER understand the answer. I could have written that question in a better way but I was finishing my third pint of N¸gne IPA at 7.5%ABV at the time. Of course Soul music is a lot about the lyrics but it's also just as much about a feeling, which can still be derived from an instrumental. You neglected to include in my quote the bit where I continued to state, "we dance to the rhythm, NOT the lyrics!!!" Tell me that's not true??? Like I said, we must agree to disagree otherwise we will be here all day. And I STILL think it's a good idea!!!

You stated, amongst other things, "As for instrumentals having soul, your having a giraffe arnt ya mate, I'm not saying that instrumentals arnt good dance records in some cases, but the vocal is what adds the real soul & I doubt any sane person could argue with that." So you agree then that instrumentals have Soul, it's just that the vocals add 'real' Soul. Is that not what you just said? Now I've never argued that it's not the vocals that adds 'real' Soul to an instrumental but instrumentals can have Soul, which is why we all rave over the likes of Exus Trek, etc. Some records almost ooze Soul, or R&B, whatever. Cast your mind back to the last time you said to yourself, oh my God, just listen to the lyrics/vocals on that record, I just gotta get up and dance. Chances were it was always the rhythm that got you going first, then as you listened more closely to the record and grew fonder of the record the 'real' Soul of the record kicked in via the vocals/lyrics, or the 'real' Soul. Well, on dance records anyhow, which is what Northern Soul is mostly about, dance records, right? But with Soul of course. That goes without saying. Or does it? Look at periods in the history of Wigan Casino. But that's best forgotten about eh. Obviously, there is a LOT more to Northern Soul records than just it's ability to make you hurl yourself toward the dancefloor so that you can dance your little socks off and everybody has their own opinions on what makes a good Northern Soul record, but we won't go into that here. Anyhow, I think this discussion needs closure, so I suggest that we just agree to disagree. I love instrumentals and could listen to a few hours worth no problem. It would seem that I'm in the minority of perhaps 2 or 3 so will concede that it probably wouldn't work . . . but it's still a good idea. I'm off quick before the next hail of opposing comments. Been nice winding you all up.

Hello Missy, Got the first one already. Don't know the Tomko. Not as good as Big Noise though is it, bit messy. Seeya Friday night, as I'll be with Mace when we come to pick you up for the 'DUDLEY-DOO'.

???? Nah, you're WRONG. See my last posting.

WHAT? Why would it be so painful to play a set of instrumentals? If you think about it, ALL recordings start with an instrumental. Most often it's the rhythm that catches you're attention first before the lyrics and it's the rhythm that 'drives' the record along, especially Northern Soul, not very often the lyrics. So, what gives with all this purastistical rubbish about Soul music deriving it's direction and 'meaning' from the lyrics? Get real, we dance to the rhythm, NOT the lyrics!!! But then again, I've had THREE N¸gne IPA's and that's enough to stun an elephant.

So that's a NO for you then?

True, but I happen to think it could work. But of course I am biased, I love instrumentals, as well as my R&B / Soul / Northern / Popcorn VOCALS. On top of that, I'm posting from my favourite Pub in Stavanger, Norway, where I'm bored out of my skull and I've had a couple of N¸gne IPA's, a really strong Real Ale in a bottle from a Micro Brewery in Grimstad over toward Oslo. Not long to go now. I'm back home for Easter on Thursday and I've got some nice venues and friends to meet lined up for at least Friday and Saturday night. Can't wait!!!

What is it with you lot, can you not read? And stop going on and on about there not being enough instrumentals to fill 8 hours!!! And how it would drive you crazy not to hear a human voice on a slab of vinyl for more than an hour or so. Jazz fans do it all the time don't they? And there's a load of so-called Jazz fans out there amongst us R&B / Soul / Northern / Modern fans; at least that's what I keep hearing? Anyhow, I asked earlier, "has it ever been done" from say 8 or 9pm to 1 or 2am? That's about 5 hours? Well, has it? Surely, there are enough quality R&B / Soul / Northern Soul / Mod instrumentals to fill 5 hours very adequately? Don't ya'll think???

Bloody hell Mark, how do you keep all that info in your head? Surely, you must have it all written down somewhere? Also, I've gone all stiff at the prospect of you posting some soundbytes to back up your 'report'. That last one sounds tasty. "It May Be Tears Of Joy", etc. Any chance of a soundbyte for that one at least?

Honestly? Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. Sounds a bit cabaret'ish, if you know what I mean. Still, it wouldn't do if we all liked the same things, eh? Good idea though. The quiz approach I mean. Makes people listen, harder!!!

The more I think about it and the more I listen to these instrumentals the more I think it's not that bad an idea. Perhaps not an Allnighter but certainly 8 til 2. Has it ever been done before?

Anita Harris? Jean DuShon?

Sounded more like Mitch Ryder than Billy Butler or Major Lance to be honest.

Brilliant innit, when you get THAT feeling from a record like THIS. Awesome.

LOVE your avatar!!! :o)

In answer to your question, "Why did Hancock only get a half hour", because any longer than that and you would have died from laughter. But I guess that'll not be the fisrt time you've heard that? Along with Tommy Cooper and Ken Dodd, what more is there to comedy?

Hi Kev, I'm now in the Pub, with FREE T'internet access, good eh? Please send me a soundbyte of the Babs Tino track. Thanks. I'll listen to it tomorrow.

Yeah, but BIGBOY's report had me on the edge of my seat. Well written. BIGBOY, ever thought of writing a Thriller? :o)

Come on everybody, there MUST be somebody out there who can supply me with a scan of the label and a soundbyte of the track . . . . . please??? PM me if you like?