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This is what I've found on the Stroud label in music magazines: Cash Box, Dec, 23, 1972: "Andy Stroud has formed a new record company and announced that his first release on Stroud Records is an LP, "Nina Simone Sings Billie Holiday". The LP features Holiday classics from the Motown film, "The Lady Sings The Blues"" Cash Box , Jan, 27, 1973: "Andy (Andrew) Stroud has entered the R & B' field with the formation of his own label, "Stroud". The first single release is, "Stand Up And Be Counted" performed by "Getto Kitty"." Also Cash Box, Dec, 30, 1972:

Thanks a lot Roburt I really appreciate it! This is what I love with Soul-Source!

Has anyone got some info on this band? I know it’s the first single release on the label started by Andy (Andrew) Stroud in 1972. Could it be session musicians used just for this record, named after “Getto kitty productions”?

Thanks a lot Simon! That made it much clearer, but still hard to get the first part.

Hoping "Feebasing" is the right place for this question. I need some help with the lyrics of Moses Dillard & The Text Town Dispaly "We Gotta Come Together". What is he singing here (from 1:32). “Talking bout some of us…??...??..??/ Let us not..??.., we got a long way to go” All help is appreciated!

Thanks a lot! Both Discogs and 45cat has "Shuffle with Ali" as a 1966 release. But you might be right that it came out early 1967. Muhammad Ali introduced the "Ali shuffle" against Cleveland Williams in November 14. 1966. It is possible to get it out before 1967, but it bit short time?

And, if you know: When was the "Shuffle with Ali" 45 made, and did Ali go to the studio to record the intro and outro?

Thanks a lot Kenb! Where did you find/ get this story?

All help appreciated! 1. Who was Laytonya Ali? And did she ever release the upcoming album "Ali's Greatest Return"? 2. What is the story behind this Detroit 45? It is credited both Ali and Tucker. Was it released just after Muhammad Ali introduced the "Ali shuffle" against Cleveland Williams in November 1966?

That's what I thought too. Thanks for info!

Thanks Chalky! The "Right on-Right on" also had a release on Detroit Label Westbound, so no doubt connections. Record World wrote this in May 1970 when it was released on Westbound. Calling it a "new single", so first on Westbound, or just new on Westbound? It had (Sex Machine) in title on Westbound, maybe to sell more, or is it a different take?

Thanks! Thanks!

I have (for some unknown reason) these as Chicago labels, but I can't find any info on them at Robert Pruters book "Chicago Soul". Does anyone know where they are from?

Thanks Djr! I found an earlier discussion about "private press" here: I like the explanation from Razadesoul: "A private pressing is not an indie label, exactly. Its a record pressed by the band/artist. Usually a a private press "record label" is generic and is 100% funded and released by the band/artist, and never bothers signing other acts. This is what makes private press different from an indie label press. An indie label signs multiple acts and strives to become a bigger label. A private press is just a band or artist that is not gonna wait around for a label and self fund their own music."

Late night question I guess I wanted to know if you agreed on this division of soul releases under the major labels.

Would you agree that before the major labels “bought up” the soul music in early/ mid 70s, one can roughly divide the soul music issued on 1) (both small and bigger) independent labels, 2) smaller “mom-and-pop” labels, and 3) “private” pressings done by artists themselves?

Thanks for the tip Ste. that was a new Larry Williams tune for me!

Thanks Robbk, that's what I thought!

Thanks a lot Ez! So then you might agree that “society hill” is just a metaphor for the finer part of a town? And maybe he used "steel mill" cos it fits?

Thanks a lot Kenb, it answers my question! So even if the 45 is released on a Chicago label, the "story" is from Philadelphia

Hi soul sourcers I’m writing a book where I use lyrics from soul 45s, and Tony Clarkes’ “Poor Boy”, on Chess records, is one of them. He’s using the word “society hill” and I was sure it was just an metaphor for the finer part of a town, but searching for it, I found out that it was (might be?) a famous neighborhood in Center City Philadelphia, PA. So, what do you think, is he singing about Philadelphia? Is there a “valley by an old steel mill” close to Center City? I’d appreciate any help! “You can look, but brother don’t you touch/ Go ahead and care, it can’t matter very much/ you’re just a poor boy, and she’s such a wealthy girl/ She’s got money, diamonds and pearls/ And all you got are dreams that may not come true/ You’re just a poor boy, a fellow ….?/ She stays way up on society hill/ You live in a valley by an old steel mill, and never will your lips kiss/ That’s one thought you may as well dismiss/ Cause you’re from a neighborhood where your kind considered no good, you’re just a poor boy”

You got a PM!

Still looking. Good trades or cash!

Charmels - As long as I've got you on Volt. Will pay good money for a at least Vg+ copy

Looking for a copy of The Relatives "Speak to me" 1971. Cash or good trades!