Kenb

I doubt this would get played at a nighter/or real deal venue. Although watzit (Ms Junoff) and many others ‘did get a go’.

I quite like it. But I’d leave if I heard it out at a venue.

47 minutes ago, Mal C said:

'Stuck on You' came out twice, originally on Megaphone, (below) and later on Domain. Fabulous track, and quite cheap 45 on Domain, given it's quality. The Megaphone release you don't see much, took me years to get a good one, most I found were not good copies. 

I do like a bit of Yvonne Caroll

wasn't it Domain 1st, then Megaphone? Sepe and Brooks Megaphone label only really started late '67 early '68.

not fond of camera's at venues at all. At least 'Skippy Sue' (R.I.P) would ask first.

i've seen them held up to Shazam 'tunes' which seems a bit over the top.

2 minutes ago, Paul-s said:

That's kind of non-sensical Ken, the forum is an area of open debate and I have often been attacked on here and never felt it necessary to send PM's because I stand by what I say and can articulate my point of view (whether its right or wrong). Sending keyboard warrior threats (badly written) is totally infantile and not a challenge at all because I'm not ten years old in a school playground.

The link to unwritten rules of yesteryear here is a bit tenuous mate. If you can't say it here regarding an open topic, then just be quiet.

I'll leave it there...because unlike you i don't have to win

best

ken

here's one Paul.

You can't have it both ways fella.

i.e a Manefesto of unwritten rules and then when challenged in a topic you make that challenge Public. Especially if the person on the receiving end of the perceived 'slant' feels it's just plain unjust.

another of the unwritten rules of yesteryear, sort it out.

what happens in PM should stay in PM.

Ralphie D= may well have been Italian/Amercan from Florida...and potentially a radio D.J. from that area

@Bunderthollox

https://billleslie.com/about/

and, Bill Covington who plays piano on “Peaceful Journey” was the keyboardist for the Cyntriks

i don't think it's catalogued correctly on discogs. i.e. United Record Profile: Sublabel of Blanco y Negro.

Jim Stanton did do stuff (eng) at United Music World/United Low Country Records. These are Columbia, South Carolina.

hope it helps?

P.S. Soul Ufonics (from Bamberg, S.C)

I was meaning to bring a little new info to this topic after the original OP in April 2019. After the initial post I did some digging… but got side-tracked, and so i totally forgot. Until…John M’s auction listing of ‘Let My Heart…’ (ending 25/10/2023) jogged me to ‘post -up’.

Group names can be found on Discogs and elsewhere. I’m going to touch on the other folks associated with the groups recording.

Better known locally as ‘Tike’, Plato Theophilos wrote the lyrics and the melody on ‘Let My Heart..'.

Nick Barker was a senior at the University of Maryland. Recorded separately on 3 tracks Nick wrote the music for the musicians. 12 violins, 9 Brass, 3 Rhythm. Vocals were added, and Ron Bollon, ‘Tike’ and Joe Bradley did the mixing at his studio. Ron Bollon who was a native New Yorker working in Baltimore, took it to Okeh. If the record could do well, they would get finance for more projects so they ‘shopped’ the 45 around the DJ’s and Radio Stations (as per previous post Al Jefferson at WWIN) including Eddie C at WEBB, with the help of some members of the group, ‘Tike’ and Fred Teves promo man at Schwartz Bros.

Plato Theophilos (Tike) was an entrepreneurial guy. Since 1974 he had owned and ran Revolution Bar, and then in 1988 opened another bar called Rev on Maryland Ave, and his connections continued with WHFS Radio (Annapolis) DJ’s showing up on opening night. Rev maybe didn’t do so well? -because in 1989 Rev and an after-hours club called Cignel merged as Studio 10 on Lafayette Ave. There was an intention to use it as a ‘studio’ for record promo parties. Perhaps lofty ambitions. Plato was owner manager.

Some other associations in print at Baltimore Sounds by Joe Vaccarino;

Tangiers & Jetsons 1965 p479, Chancellors as backing group 1968 & name change from Tangiers to Tan Geers p480.

Plato also managed Koffee Beans and name-changed them to Gross National Product, Nick Barker on keyboards, p194.Three members of the band had been together with the Jetsons p257.

Jim Buckley ‘Third Time Today on Format Records, Bollon & Plato produced p59.

Ron Price recorded at Bradley studios and released on Newark Records co-produced by Bollon p376.

There are more I’m sure, and even think Nick Barker had been in the Uptowns who backed Clay Hunt (Bay Sound).

this brilliant piece by Gary E. will help you understand the 'vagaries' of these Tide recordings....

https://topshelfoldies.org/tide_edit_records.htm

about 1998 - Rev Ralph Beechum, Pastor of the House of Joy Miracle Deliverance Church. The church is/was at 31st ave Denver, became MLK blvd ( Martin Luther King).

i'll take another look when i get a mo

i may have posted this ( or something with it) before..anyhow;

World Wide Sound Dist Inc 407 Hamilton First American Bank Bldg: Memphis based, co-owned by businessman Bill Harper in early 1975, and formed to help the “little man” in the recording industry. Originally ‘homed’ at 147 Jefferson, Bill was also owner of River Records. In 1973 Bill’s partner and v.p. at River Records was Harold Streibich, quite a renowned attorney and music man.

As early as 1968, Harold Streibich was president in Music Memphis Inc. formed to promote ‘the Memphis sound’. Other officers included Jim Stewart (Stax), Rufus Thomas, and Knox Phillips. Harold was also on the board of governors of the Nashville Chapter of The National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences, as well as prexy of Memphis Music

Bill also owned First American Music Co & Memphis Artists booking agency. Most of the River Records output before 1975 had been distributed by NSD (Nashville Sound Dist).

Addresses can be a revealing thing!

Investors Associates of America (pre-Oct 1972 formerly known as Hamilton Security Inc, Liberty National Securities & Harper Investment Co) at 147 Jefferson had officers that included Bill Harper. Essentially Liberty was in the Municipal Bonds business (debt securities issued by states, cities, counties and other governmental entities to fund day-to-day obligations and to finance capital projects such as building schools and highways). All had connections to First American Bank Bldg, Suite 407. In Feb 1976 the sale of Hamilton First American Bank went to United American Bank.

22 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

But what if the DJ plays affordable records you aint got and therefore can't play at home...winner winner innit ?

Affordable AND good (for DJ purposes at nighters) don't often go together. Rare and underplayed are by their very nature expensive. Sure DJ's can slip more affordable 45's in their sets...but if they are any good they won't stay affordable for long.

10 hours ago, Benji said:

Wanna share a few of these tunes? I'm very curious......

I'd like to see that too Benji

1 hour ago, Geeselad said:

They aren't played because, as chalky intonates ego's get in the way. why play a cheap record when you can show off and play what you spent £3k on last month. That's the default setting for most.  

I wouldn’t want to go out and listen to a DJ playing affordable records I have, and that I can play at home myself.

34 minutes ago, Jez Jones said:

thing is...there must be lots of great allnighter tunes at affordable prices...its just they  probably dont get played. How can a DJ stand out from the crowd (and yes there is a crowd of DJ's out there) by playing affordable records.....

 

Why aren’t they played then? Is it because in reality there aren’t lots of allnighter tunes at affordable prices….just affordable N.S.tunes.

PM'ed ya

https://www.soultracks.com/story-katherine-anderson-marvelettes-dies

3 hours ago, Chalky said:

I think its the the Dj scenario that is driving the prices.

I think people are buying them and flipping them 6 months- 18 months down the line OR truly putting them in their boxes…I concede  perhaps a few DJs might be driving the prices.

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

I said this on another topic.....

Ignore the rare and the trophy records. There are tons of 45s at sensible affordable prices that would make a cracking nighter.  Might not be new discoveries but many unknown to the majority cause the majority just don’t go digging anymore. They are force fed certain records, a certain collecting ethos, just like you are force fed the news agenda.  John Bowie it ain’t even rare, you’ve heard it a million times, switch of this force fed narrative and just go and dig, be that in record boxes or just listening to random cheap sound files on websites, open your ears and your minds. 

I don't understand the obsession over some the supposedly rarest yet most over played records on the scene....not just the northern classic oldies scene but go to any crossover or supposedly upfront venue and you will hear the same records month after month, year after year.  There is no imagination, hot boxers, little knowledge amongst the Djs because they've never had to dig, just go out and buy the big records Butch for Andy Dyson for example have found.  The classic side, same big records you've heard a million times over 40/50 years.

Would you listen to an episode of Top of The Pops from 1978 every week?  No you wouldn't so why do it with soul records?  As I said there are tons never played, virtually unknown to the masses, records that would make a great all-nighter.  Some of the fodder passed off as Northern Soul at some of the nighters now would never have got played just a few years ago, they are pretty poor but they cost a few bob.  

Has it come down to what a Dj spends to make them now as a DJ?  Must be because it isn't because of what they are playing in some cases.

I get your point Chalky...but you've made an assumption people paying big bucks for records are DJ's who want tham to play out. I don't think that's the case.

enjoy Sandra

they might just as well be saying "alexia play"!

12 hours ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

That’s sounds like the one ,are you able to scan it ? Many thanks 

It's (the book) under copyright protection...but it is page 172. As for the B&S issue, i don't have it.

the 'covering-up' with white (paper discs) labels was retold in 'Dave Godin- a Northern Soul' by Stephen Stevlor (author) as...'a train journey trip in 1971 to visit the Pendulum & Cromwellian'. It goes on 'his clubbing adventure was covered in the next available B&S'.