Kenb

congratulations - 100 issues takes some doing.

there is also this... Bert Berns (Bang/Shout) was an influence on Freddie. paraphrase from Joel Selvin's book Here Comes The Night - Berns always spoke about plans to reach the Spanish market. He signed Arsenio Rodriguez. Rodriguez always seemed to say he "invented" Mambo, and left Cuba for Miami in the early 50’s, and then moved to the Sth Bronx. They recorded shout LP501 at Century Sound Studio, NJ. and interestingly it's listed as 'Open The Door To Your Heart' (no Up in the title). One other thing that springs to mind- there is (now) well documented evidence of 'Organized Crime' involvement which surrounding Berns. So 'the sales of records' especially via disties outside the U.S. might be less important than you think (think of the tax scam labels)

i think the point i was (badly) trying to make was about writers credits on 'the original' versus the UK imprint. When (and by the time) it got to Edward Kassner's label ( Jay Boy, President, etc) a. he wasn't that bothered, b. more info was available. There are many examples across these labels where those credited differ from the original.

There are lots of sides where writers, artists, arrangers, family and friends, etc, - who have nothing to do with the actual recording, get put on or share credits. In many cases, everybody knew everybody else in a certain ‘music town’ (so to speak), and this was a way of looking after each other as “Brothers & “ Sisters”.

you are unlikely to find any of my 400+ post replies that don't do that.

I keep seeing references to 'full dance floors'. When did rammed dance floors equate to anything? I've never been a DJ, no intention of starting...but i've always been a dancer since '69, and still quite happy to dance on my own at venues where the DJ plays my thing. I choose to go to venues that play original, rare and underplayed.

@Dave Moore a lovely tribute Dave

The Copyright Catalog entry for Sidra’s Theme is 15th Dec 1966. ( 29th Sept 1966 for As long As You Love Me). Since Silky Hargraves is also 1966, it's a pretty good bet that this is earlier. PS. i don't hear the similarity snippets you do.

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i haven't bought any for a while now...but i have had some nice condition Port label, etc, in the past (from memory). So i'd be quite happy for it to continue - and just leave the one's i don't think are good value.

Joey. my wife tells me. it was run Monday & Friday. There is (or was) a pub virtually next door The New Inn. Pattrieouoex ( prenounced Patrio's - the Senior Service cigarette factory) was just down the road- although it was just in the borough Hyde. Pattrieouoex

@chaswhere was Druffies? Chas.

thinking on...i wouldn't mind betting Richard Searling might have dropped in here. From memory i think Ricahrd had a spell at Fielden Park college. If so, it wasn't far from here at all.

In his article he added....He added: "But Bunny Sigler's "Let The Good Times Roll" was the Oaks' anthem." I think i've posted this before somewhere on SS, but Valerie Simpson was one of the girl singers on 'Let The Good Times Roll'-Bunny Sigler

I remember The Oaks, but not quite as the picture in the article. In 1969 it was in my first year was at West Wythemshawe Cof F.E. ( Northenden -Moor Rd i think) and many of that year spent time in the Oaks. I remember "what i think was" the back of the pub where there was a Football Table (mostly occupied all night). I think it was the back of the pub because that was the entrance from the car park.

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ditto...to you Dave, Mike and the Soul Source team- as well as all other Soul Source members

First appearance on Ed Sullivan show, March 1968. Singing 'The End Of The Road' and ' I Heard It Through The Grapevine'.

A truly wonderful response by you. Yes, good advice you gave to the OP. You are right to say “Don't feel disheartened that you weren't there at the beginning” - and it got me thinking... Everyone’s beginning starts at a different point. For instance, (and you could pick TW, Va Va's ,Torch,etc) i wonder how many are still around [and i hope it's many] who heard the first play of The Sherrys -Put Your Arms Around Me ( BTW: i think you’d need to be born at least before 1960). So the scene's history is fantastic- but don't let it hold you back.

So have we got Dave Moore and Steve Smith boots now aswell, or are they re-presses, licenced, re-issues?

Unfortunately, if there is money to be made, some will take a short cut. Similar was going on some 60 years ago, also. One of the most [THEN] flagrant cases of record bootlegging was uncovered in Feb 1958 when the office of the Illinois state’s attorney uncovered a distribution set up in Chicago and a pressing arrangement in Cincinnati. Records, plates and masters were confiscated at the Cincinnati pressing plant by Cincinnati police on information supplied by Chicago’s state’s attorney. Estimates of records produced and sold throughout the United States ranged from 100,000 since Christmas (1957) to several millions since the operation’s inception. Proof that the bootlegging was in operation before Christmas was the discovery of “The Joker” by Billy Myles on Ember.

There was a club that ran for 8yrs that didn’t have alcohol.

Also, many of the battles over naming came from other quarters than B.G./Motown. Otis Williams owns the Temptations name. So in the past for instance, when Dennis Edwards was putting on a concert he called it The Tempatations Revue featuring Dennis Edwards ( a name sanctioned by a 1998 court order).

Greetings We’re The Monitors - Tamla Motown ‎– STML 11108 £50 ex delivery Edge wear to Front Sleeve (see picture) Wear to Back Sleeve and Red Marker over STML (see picture) Record (see picture) Plain inner sleeve. Delivery Options: Free Delivery (in person) for Tameside/East Manchester locations. £4.50 Royal Mail – signed for and £50 insurance. Payment PayPal Friends and Family. Thanks Ken n.b. Pictures taken straight from an IPhone.