pow wow mik

I think that as Larry Davis was a blues singer and was effectively covering an r&b standard, originally by bo biddley, it's probably safe to say that 'I've been hurt' always was, is and will be, R&B.

The joe mayfield had a touch of the Buddy Aces, come on people, try shopping around a bit eh?

I do see what you mean. It always happens when a style becomes fashionable - sellers try to shoehorn anything slightly resembling, especially things they're struggling to shift, into the trendy genre. basically, your basic funk hasnt done anything price wise in 15 years - it's out of fashion with the big spenders at least - so people see some funk records go big, they get high hopes for their straight funk 45s, either not realising that it's only a certain sound that's in fashion, or hoping to sell to people who are flailing around trying to jump on the bandwagon, or maybe, they're just selling them to people who know exactly what sort of funk they are, but like them anyway. maybe there's people who like to mix their hard edged funky soul with straight-up funk instead of with northern, after all, that was going on in the 90s, when a lot of these funky soul tracks first got played, by Wrighty & co I

I have exactly that on a samsung tablet, no notifications, only find them by accident when I go to write one. Half the time I didnt used to be able to write them too on this. ]

swap it that guy for his constellations on violet - good trade]

Good post and I agree with you. but I dont assume that I'm the guardian of anything, I just hate nostalgia, it's wank.

And as usual, you take it to another extreme. no one is saying that they should play dubstep, boogie, funk or any style that they dont already play...just that deliberately limiting yourself to 40+ year old knowledge seems a bit bizarre, especially as such a wealth of similar music to what they played has been discovered since. You cannot argue that it's reasonable to play 'fortune teller' but not 'this is for you my love' for a example, just because the latter wasnt played originally. They may play both, but it illustrates the point. it's a false dichotomy that it's either pure nostalgia or progress into new genres, I've been playing nothing outside of 55-70 r&b for 15 years and find new things to play regularly and have 100s more I'd like...what are these people saying? That they dont want to hear them? anyway, I've since learned that the Wheel actually isnt that religious about it's accuracy and aims for the spirit and sound of the original rather than just faithfully replicating playlists, so I apologise to those concerned for ranting and wish em good luck. ]

I can imagine it : someone plays charles sheffield... "it's an outrage!" "Yeah, I want to celebrate the days when we didn't know this by pretending it doesn't exist!" "Me too, I miss the days when we didn't know this" "Good tune though..." "That's not the point" "What is the point again?" ...next track comes on : Bill Cosby 'little ole man'... "That's better..."

So you're like wedding djs? just giving people what they want? At least you're honest I guess. Each to their own of course, but I can't get past this scenario I have of one of your djs hearing an amazing record, firmly believing that it would have been played at the 60s Wheel, if it had been known, knowing it'd fit in perfectly with the Wheel sound, feeling pretty sure that the audience would like it even... ...but NOT playing it...and PLAYING 'I spy for the fbi' or 'billy's bag'! I just cant get my head around that. No music lover should ever find themselves in that ridiculous situation! ]

Not sure what the complaint is here...that some records aren't very good? what do you want folks to do, start describing them on ebay as crap-funk, shit-soul, 'average r&b badly lacking a middle 8' etc etc? even then they could be wrong about that! I think that's the absolutely best part of buying old records - you look through a load, all described as 'soul', maybe some guessed by the seller to be 'funk' or 'r&b', and you have to figure out which are the good ones for yourself. If some are described wrong then good...I'd sure rather have a newie described wrongly as 'garage' or something than rightly as 'belting rhythm and soul perfect for a club like the pow wow club'....that'd just fuck me up! you need the ear. It's about the only skill you need for this shit but it must be a rare-ish skill, or most djs wouldn't be only buying tunes that are already big. personally, I pretty much ignore anyone's description and go by the label, artist name, track title etc. But then it's easy for me...any artist called 'little' or 'big' something will be ok and any track about cleopatra ;-)

If 'fonk' is owt, it's the slap bass, 'we like to pardee' type 70s stuff surely, like Kool &the gang? Not that there's anything wrong with that either. The louis chachere is actually closer to new orleans r&b, boogaloo and 60s blue note stuff like lou donaldson than it is to comedy afros and other 'fonky' cliches...it was a mod / blow-up type night I was playing it at with stuff like village callers, mohawks and willie mitchell...cant just dismiss all that as student music.

Belgian boot int it? Even if it wasn't, £80 ?]

The slow side's great but not sure why £200, I guess some pure deep records go for big money dont they? A lot of people would probably buy this at £30, me included. the fast side's not crap but doesn't fit in anywhere, it's like a soul jiver!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Darker-Shades-Ltd-Trackin-Down-Jodie-VG-original-FUNK-northern-soul-/291112373010?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item43c7a64b12 https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-NEW-ESTABLISHMENT-IN-SOUL-Whip-It-Foolish-Fool-7-45-Grants-Iowa-Funk-Soul-/251494845277?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3a8e42cb5d https://www.ebay.com/itm/Soul-Funk-45-Tommy-Dent-and-Soul-Commandos-Hair-Rapda-mp3-rare-/251504743646?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3a8ed9d4de There's another sub-genre of funk - the real hardcore messy ghetto stuff that's always $1000+ on ebay yet is inepty written and played and sounds like a load of stoners having a jam....who's buying that stuff?!

I used to play that louis chachere at a night in the 90s which was exactly a student night and it was where it belonged, never played it since. At the same night, I also used to play Ricky Allen on Tam-boo, bo jr on tailgate and lorenzo holden on cee jam... I would still play those three but not the louis chachere.... but that's just my taste having developed, they're all four still funk records, can't make a new genre for the ones I still like even though the difference sounds massive to me now.

Eh? Surely these records are 'funk' as it is, and the funky soul records you like, er, 'funky soul' or just 'soul'! Reminds me of people trying to create some sort of separation between some notion of 'real r&b' and the wave of 'new breed r&b' that became popular in the 00s....what a load of b*llocks, there's just r&b....if you dont like some of it then that's all it is, you just dont like some of it, doesnt make it another genre, unless you can manage to create a genre based around a taste structure rather than a musical style - like Northern Soul, which then wont mean much in musical terms. to illustrate my previous point, Karl used to play Bo Jr on Tailgate, which to your average non-enthusiast wouldn't sound that much different, genre wise, to louis chachere. you need years to learn these nuances

Think you're reading too much into it. A lot of people will just put funk / soul / r&b on any listing that might be any of those, to catch searches and maybe because they dont know all the finer rules of British genre defining. Imagine some poor US seller trying to work out if louis chachere is funk or r&b or hard edged funky soul!? They just put soul / funk as in main category - soul, sub category - funk, if they even know that much. it is a bit weird when sellers are more specific, like using terms like 'northern' or 'popcorn' when something isn't, but even this can be useful, cos unless they're way wrong, it gives the buyer an indication of what the style of an unknown 45 is. Apart from that, i dont think many people are confusing party student funk with funky soul....maybe some people like both and maybe there's tracks that fall right between the two genres, there usually are.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/hip-pocket-records/m.html?item=231244786125&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l4064 sorry, try this link if that one doesnt work, thanks!

A collection of oddball funk, soul & R&B stuff on buy-it-nows https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/hip-pocket-records/m.html?item=231244793175&ViewItem=&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 cheers

You've put the decimal point a digit too far to the right on the Jannie Williams cheers

Chuck Carbo - Wake Up Crying (Teem) ex+ £300 very rare 45, Chuck's rarest and a great latin blues shaker. Unlikely to see another in this almost mint condition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JKgqvlV1lk Kenny Gamble - Our Love (Columbia) VG++ £50 One of the best tracks to never have took off, must do one day...great soul epic from 64, backed with one of the best beat ballads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnPpYOKVjU Eddie Bo & Inez Cheatham - Lover & A Friend (Capitol) VG++ (small pressing bubble nap) £50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRtQZpH6GgA Roy Ward - Horse With A Freeze (Seven B) Ex £40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZKbrgsRls Chuck Colbert - Oof (do anything you want) (Bee) Ex £50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2dBw1W-ZQ4 Walter Bolen - Lion Hunt (Pick-A-Hit) Ex+ £50 Exotic bossa tit shaker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ig5eDUjl34 pm or email : recordmik@btinternet.com

Who has birthday parties? What the fuck are we, 5 years old?

Some r&b leaning ones Bud harper - whereever you were / let it rain johnny west - tears baby / it aint love melvin davis - its no news / wedding bells

Moscowsoul got one in sales now

Nice pair of records, but look at that twat on the all night workers youtube clip! Years late on mid price r&b and then 'presents' it to us. Cheers