David Meikle

Could have been a tidy instrumental? No doubt one will exist?! A prosperous and Happy New Year when it finally reaches us.

Thanks Robb and respect to you for para 2 as I know you were around then. Have a good one. David ,

Perhaps you couldn’t see the Teroshima bit as tongue in cheek? Labaron Taylor my ass. Only joking Robb. This book IS well worth the money. But if this extremely good read is seen as gospel then Ed Wingate’s obituary is possibly in tatters. I only discovered The Detroit Sound in 1967, but it changed my life COMPLETELY. It hurts me to read that BG and EW are remembered as less than decent.But they weren’t the only ones in that cut throat industry. I’m pissed so I must STFU Buy the book!

I ended up buying the book which arrived today. At first glance I am excited about the detail but I wish he had done a bit of proof reading on the spelling of names and places. When I saw “Teroshima”, for example, I thought he had been recording in Japan and not on Livernois. Tera Shirma Studios to us fanatics! Anyway, seems like every other page is dissing Ed Wingate so it’s worth the money alone to get his opinion on his old boss. If Ed was still alive...I wonder. I glimpsed Aretha Franklin being touted for “The whole world is a stage”. That would have been an interesting version. Al talks about potential stars such as Winnie Webb...who? Detroit was full of them. Norma Toney his wife gets a mention too. I’ll let you read that yourself. If you are into Detroit facts as much as me then I think you’ll find this book fascinating. More than 600 pages of it too!

Thanks to Mike and the web team for this excellent platform. A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all forum members. Not forgetting those wonderful Arrangers, Producers, Songwriters, Musicians, Studio Owners, Singers and Background Singers. It was you who unwittingly gave us the Northern Soul Scene.

Alexander Patton’s “A Lil Lovin Sometimes” The epitome of our scene IMO.

I wonder if Al kept the RicTic cap he’s sporting in the OP?

What would we have done without James Carmichael ......

At £40 plus I thought this was a no goer. Then I discovered it had over 600 pages to it. A sample of 109 pages is available via Google books. I’ve seen most of the images on display except those of Joanne Bratton and Bob Hamilton. Very interesting to see those. For a first glance I think this looks well written. The names and record labels are discussed aplenty. NYC, Chicago and Detroit too. All the way back to 1955. After GW was sold Al’s name was on most 45’s as either a songwriter or producer. I’ve always wanted to know why Bob met a violent end and hopefully this will be discussed. I believe it was a drive by shooting in 1969. Interestingly on a number of pages Al refers to his other brother as Ronnie Savoy rather than Eugene Hamilton. I’m going to plunk for the ebook at circa £28. I think it will be well worth it.

Is that a fact? LOL

I’m merely pointing out that he is Joe Odom. If he is also Al Williams of La Beat then fandabbydozy. At least the thread has now got some action. Peace.

The singer in the photo is Jerry Butler soundalike Joe Odom.

“The Tracks of My Tears” is one of the greatest songs ever written. He also co-wrote others and became an Arranger and Producer in his own right. I doff my hat to the late Warren Moore. RIP.

Della Reese was born in 1931 in the Motor City. RIP

You may also be able to gain entry to the Apollo Theater on 125th Street. If I remember correctly it is near the underground station. We went up during the day and were allowed access to where the stage is. Nice Soul Food restaurant nearby. Turn right when you come out of the theater and it’s on the next block.

“24 hours to find my baby” Edwin Starr on the 25 miles album. Superb; but here’s the equally brilliant instrumental....

Keith Rylatt’s book ‘Groovesville USA’ tells us the following about Tomangoe’s. ”A session group consisting of a Dusty Wilson vocal on top of a Bob Seger band track sewn together by label owner Gino Washington”. This advert backs that up... ‘Tragedy’ was probably recorded in 1967 and was Dusty Wilson’s final release under that name. Tomangoe’s came a year later. Keith’s book does not list ‘Williams’ as having a release. But Williams was ‘well known’ enough to appear on a top class show as mentioned above. The producer of the show would have known Dusty Wilson well enough to let him take part under his new moniker. Reasonable assumptions I think, and my ears still pick up similarities in both 45’s, albeit minor.

Claude Williams, the songwriter and pianist on this great recording, is apparently Dusty Williams. A Dusty Williams was deemed good enough to be on a Memphis Sounds Revue in February 1968 along with such luminaries as Eddie Floyd, Pigmeat Markham, Barbara Mercer, Timmy Willis, JJ Barnes, Pat Lewis, Ruby Andrews etc, at the Riviera Theater on Grand River Avenue. Having listened to some Dusty Wilson tracks, these untrained ears hear bits of Dusty Williams of the Tomangoe’s. Just a thought!

A great track wasted IMO.

Was there any comment at time of release regards track 7 the Miracles - Baby You Hold The Key? This link plays exactly as per the cd. Go to 16 seconds..... https://acerecords.co.uk/docs/CDTOP_424/CDTOP_424-1-7.mp3 There are other poor moments on this song especially at the beginning of the track. Almost as if it had been dubbed from vinyl which of course I wouldn't expect.

Not so comprehensive I'm afraid. Soul Scotland lists 13 events In Scotland in September while Soul-Source lists 3. Not complaining!

https://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~abdnpaul/power.html Ray This is usually a comprehensive list. Unfortunately NS is few and far between in Glasgow and as you can see there is nothing on. If you are stuck and fed up you can over to my house Friday or Saturday for a few bevvies and some brill memories. David

Silky's father was Bluesman Richard 'Nickel' Hargrave. Silky was also a cousin of Mike Hanks. Detail from Keith Rylatt's book Groovesville. End of......

I've suddenly got this image in my head of Betty grabbing you by the throat. Only joking!

Betty Lavette showed me a photograph of Silky as she knew him very well. Please be assured he was African American.