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Not much going on on the Sun at the moment so spent an hour on the Moon tonight for a change , 95% illuminated. Standard mono view. Inverted shot for something different.

If you compare the events guide inside the back pages of those copies of Echoes from 1976 to the events listing here on Soul Source you might pull that peak date forward 40 years ... ? But who are we to comment on such things as opposed to 'primary sources from the period' ? No doubt the finished work will be way above the heads of most that are involved in the 'scene' , either then or now , and I suspect that the vast majority will never read it either as it will likely be locked away from those without access to the select academic journals. Nevertheless I'll say good luck with the project ...

Think you'll find he's set his timeline out quite clearly in the title of his project and in the questions asked actually sir ... Keeping the Faith: A History of Northern Soul General Questionnaire Biographical 1. Where were you born and when (DOB)? 2. Where were you brought up? Employment of parents? Class background? 3. What did you do when you left school? General Questions relating to Soul/Northern Soul Music 4. What was your first introduction to soul music? 5. What was the soul scene like where you lived? 6. What did the music mean to you? 7. What clubs did you attend? 8. What is Northern Soul in your opinion? 9. How did the Northern Soul Scene develop for you? 10. How important was the music, clubs, fashions etc 11. Why do you think it was particularly strong in the north of England and Midlands? 12. Why did the scene begin to fragment during the mid/late 1970s and could you point to a date or particular year which marked this trend? Questions specifically about Wigan Casino 13. Over what period or periods did you attend Wigan? 14. What were your first impressions? 15. What were your lasting impressions? 16. What was best about Wigan? 17. What was worst about Wigan? 18. Thinking about Mr M’s how would you characterise the difference in music policy? Was there any discernible difference between fans in Ms and the main room or did fans enjoy both? 19. What do you recall of the live mainstream soul acts at Wigan and the reaction of dancers/participants to them? 20. How would you characterise Wigan’s reception of or interaction with the ‘mod’ revival of the late 1970s? 21. Thinking about where fans came from to the Casino can you recall whether any specific geographical areas appeared to stand out more than others? 22. Would you say that there was a significant percentage of ‘locals’ at Wigan, say those from up to a 10 miles radius of the town? 23. What are your recollections of groups of fans who travelled down from Scotland/Wales? 24. Can you recall any large numbers from Merseyside or the North East of England? 25. How would you describe participants at Wigan in terms of class, gender, and ethnicity? 26. Were you aware of any generational differences and changes of fans during the 1973-1981 periods in terms of age; music preferences; fashion and general outlook? For example was there a definitely 60s crowd at the beginning who were not there at the end? Alternatively, were you aware of a newer generation on the scene during this time? 27. Without going into detail what were your impressions of illegal drug abuse at Wigan? 28. Would you say the drug abuse issue got worse, improved or stayed broadly unchanged throughout the 1973-1981 period? Other Venues 29. What other Northern Soul venues did you attend during the 1970s/80s and what were your impressions? 30. With regard to Question 29, above, did you attend Blackpool Mecca Highland Room and if so what are your thoughts on any differences or similarities with those who attended the Casino? 31. Were there any differences between men and women in terms of what they contributed to the scene and what they got out of it? 32. How did Northern Soul shape your identity? 33. What is the legacy of northern soul? 34. How important was it in terms of your social and cultural life? 35. What are your thoughts on how the scene has been remembered by film makers, writers, and participants? 36. Is there anything you would like to add that might not have been covered by the questions? 37. Can you describe a typical experience of a soul night in the 1970s? Getting ready, clothes, travel, conversation, companionship, music, dancing, journey home and aftermath.

Eddie and Ernie. Bob and Fred.

Shame that you seem to be finishing your studies with the close of the Casino , there's an awful lot of water under the bridge since then ... 35 years worth in which the scene has happily continued to thrive without Wigan ( 37th Anniversary of the 100 Club All-nighters this weekend says more than a little ... ) If the title of your latest monograph is to be "Keeping the Faith : A History of Northern Soul" then it should surely cover the years since 1981 as well , or it must surely end up as a completely inaccurate study. I'm guessing you'll be able to get a degree in Northern Soul at Wolverhampton Uni very soon ...

You want one of these Lenny , dead simple to use just plug in and play ... https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/music-and-video-transfer/music-and-video-transfer/tape-2-go-digital-conversion-cassette-player-21429233-pdt.html

Heard you the first time ...

Gave all the details in the first reply ...

Well these must be the worst quality bootlegs out there , just f**kin' laughable ..... https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/nightowlwigan7/m.html?item=262618652997&hash=item3d254aa145%3Ag%3Awx0AAOSwvzRX1AsI&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

To be brutally honest ... at the end of the day it's not exactly what you'd call exciting , rare , expensive or hard to find ... in any format ... so not sure it warrants much more sleuthing ...

Without a copy of in each and and a loop to check the deadwax I'd say impossible to answer with any certainty , anyone out there care to photograph their copies ( properly at full res and square on ... RAW file preferred ) so the scratches/stamps can be compared ... ?

Same plates , two pressings ...

Mr Manship's 5th Edition.

If you want it for home it's on an Ace CD .... https://acerecords.co.uk/rhythmnbluesin-by-the-bayou-nights-of-sin-dirty-deals-and-love-sick-souls 45 seems pretty scarce.

John says it came from Lou Barreto himself so one assumes it's the real thing ... ?

Flip side to "Forever Mine" on 7" ...

Boot .....

2nd press ......

Plenty of credits listed on Discogs ... https://www.discogs.com/artist/706990-Bob-Relf?filter_anv=0&type=Credits

Release number on LHS of label = 1st Press. Number on RHS of label = 2nd pressing. Boot has no address along bottom of label and has "If I Could Only Be Sure" on flip.

Just up on John's Facebook page ..... " Phew!! now that was damn hard work... https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/…/MANSHIPS_COLLECTORS_GUIDE_ed… At last, the 1024 page hardback collector's addition is FINISHED and with the printers. Well over a 1000 full colour scans + 860 pages listing A & B sides, label & #, label variations, genres & matrix information where necessary. All in artist order. includes RARE SOUL ALBUMS with wanted tracks noted. includes NORTHERN SOUL reissues, bootlegs and counterfeit with matrix info includes. NORTHERN SOUL, MOTOWN, 50's & 60's R&B, SWEET SOUL, DEEP SOUL, FUNK, MODERN SOUL, MOD/BOOGALOO, LATIN, CROSSOVER etc, etc. Fully revised and updated and hugely added to from the 700 page Edition 6. This is a limited collectors edition in HARD BACK! This collector's edition, are all individually numbered and signed by the author. NOTE only 1000 are being made, more than 1/2 have now sold. Pre-ordering will most likely be essential to secure a copy. This edition, is we consider our best work so far in documenting, authenticating USA rare soul vinyl. ***To follow this release will be the long awaited UK SOUL/MOTOWN (very soon) INFORMATION GUIDE very soon. the 5 years in the making HARD BACK BOOTLEG GUIDE, + a full colour MOTOWN COLLECTORS GUIDE**

No , there's two bidders , "y***2" and "a***l" , y***2's top auto-bid must have been $178 and a***l's was higher so it's showing as $180.50 , if you click on "Show automatic bids" you'll see the back and forth ... Both dickheads ...

I prefer it on the tape over the YT clip , you can barely hear it on the tape ... And rightly so.

Just do what everyone else does , go to John's site after the auction's ended and read the finish bids for yourself ...

That's the one , 'orrible racket ...