Johndelve

Not a record, but I would like this CD if anyone can help please. None for sale on discogs or ebay. Thanks John

A genius and a great hero of mine. R.I.P.

I think you are quite right. In the near future if you play someone on this forum ten records they didn't know in random order - five being AI and five being "genuine" - I bet few of us will be able to distinguish which are which. And that's us. Your average music fan most definitely won't get it right. Nor will they care.

I posted on one of his youtube records a couple of months back pointing out that all this stuff was AI produced. They took my comment down pretty quickly. And, anyway, most people couldn't care less so I was probably wasting my time .

Many of these soundtracks can be quite expensive, mainly because collecting soundtracks is a "thing" in its own right, so not just soul fans who seek them out.

A brilliant artist. "The Beginning" LP is simply fantastic. As were so many of her other records. RI.P. Ann..

I don't think he is white, but am not 100% sure. What I do know is that, somewhat surprisingly, given what else is on there, this single is on the juke box of the Fred Perry store in Covent Garden. 😅

Totally forgotten, or never even known in first place. I played this superb record at the Uckfield soul night three years ago and completely cleared the floor. Not one single person dancing to it.

Did he buy it from Rod Dearlove? I'm pretty sure Rod was first person to have it...he mentioned it in an old copy of Voices From Shadows....

Yes, a lovely show with great records throughout....R.I.P Timmy

Yes, Soul Kitchen in Tunbridge Wells. About four of five Sundays a year. They play loads of what could be termed "Low Rider" sides. I personally played this wonderful Reggie Milner record there about three years ago. o

Have a look on ebay, there are lots of these types of posters for sale, but probably take some of the ridiculous prices with a pinch of salt. Having said that, they can go for a lot of money. As an aside, what a weird poster. It lists songs by both Dells and Harold Melvin & Blue Notes that are basically nothing to do with them. Promoter not doing his homework, I think....

Yes, out there, no question, but prices have gone up drastically over last few years.

It's the same type of thing that clueless sellers do when calling records "Northern Soul" which are nothing of the sort.

Magnificent player, magnificent bloke.

Agreed. Not remotely 'weak'. Many fantastic records, and nothing to do with 'b' sides. The term "Low Rider" to describe this type of music/scene has also been in usage for well over twenty years. It's not a new terminology.

Arrived today, just played it, fantastic...

Great Alex ! Jimmy Jules is a marvellous find, six cracking LPs in a row, well done... great Christmas present for us...Best John

Posted 2 hours ago 17 hours ago, Johndelve said: You said : As long as I know it's AI, who loses? I said, a week ago : All the professional musicians, writers, singers, arrangers, producers etc, who will lose their jobs, income opportunities because people choose to spend money on AI items rather than 'real records'. Expand I take that point a bit, but the aim of the game is to produce music people like. If AI can produce music people like better (and I'm not sure it will, I think people will listen to it if it's free, but I can't see them paying for it) then those musicians, writers, singers, arrangers, producers etc will have to find something else to do - like buggy whip manufacturers and wheelwrights and stable boys did when the internal combustion engine made the horse and cart redundant, or vinyl pressing plant workers did when we moved to CD (and CD factory staff did when we moved to online). Along the way, don't forget, those musicians etc have benefited enormously from automation and AI in every other field... if cars were all still made by hand instead of robots most of them would be walking to gigs, for instance. Not to say there aren't concerns and worries - there are. I don't know how we'll adapt, but we always have before. In terms of music, it will probably put a premium on real music and live performances, so quality artists will survive and maybe even thrive. Who knows - it might even see a revival of small local gigs. I personally think it will be a bit of a flash in the pan - people will always prefer art made by other people. I think you are talking about two completely different things. The examples of automation you quote without doubt were of a huge benefit to millions of people. (And to the detriment of those who lost their jobs as a result. ) But they were industrial processes which are always subject to ways of doing things quicker and cheaper. The end result, in short, was better and the winners far outnumbered the losers. Is anyone saying use of AI is better than what came before? It may well lead to someone like me being able to produce a record but I don't have any talent so not much use there..... And artists aren't - with some exceptions, obviously - driven by impulses of making money, they want to make art, or at least create work that others want to look at, listen to or read. The winners will be the small number of people who know how to manipulate AI and the losers will be the much larger group of artists who lose out. And we are only really talking here about creating records. What about the books that are already being written by AI? Jesus Christ. Even worse than making music. I bet authors just LOVE AI. I don't think AI is going away at all and it clearly isn't a flash in the pan. Millions of people won't give a toss how a record is made. It's only a relatively small number of long standing soul fans on here ( and doubtless the long standing supporters of other types of music) and the artists themselves who will care.

You said : As long as I know it's AI, who loses? I said, a week ago : All the professional musicians, writers, singers, arrangers, producers etc, who will lose their jobs, income opportunities because people choose to spend money on AI items rather than 'real records'.

AI is here to stay, no question, and it has and will have many benefits in certain walks of life. But in art/ music /entertainment ? A disaster. Ask musicians, artists, writers etc. what they think of AI when it puts them out of work....

It's not a double LP. The vinyl is a straight reissue of his ABC LP. The only way to get the 'bonus' tracks is indeed via the CD. btw his vocal on " I can't stand a woman two timing a man" is phenomenal. God knows why this isn't more of an in demand' 45.

Just to be clear though : there are NO unreleased tracks on what is, I agree, a fine release. Only pity is that it is not on vinyl, given the general lack of interest in CDs.

Isn't it just. I think I have it all too, but I'm delighted Kent have put this out. Their releases nearly always have good sound quality but think they have surpassed themselves here, it sounds crystal clear. And Spencer Wiggins" Uptight Good Woman" is an astonishing record, genuinely incredible power in his singing and way too long since it was mentioned on Soul Source.

Thanks. That is indeed stupid money, especially as another copy of same CD - mint and from UK - is for sale at just over £8. It's what I call "the ebay syndrome". Clueless people are trying to sell things on there all the time that can be purchased on discogs at a fraction of the price. Agree that the Backbeats series was very good.