Sutty

Umm yes, this is the most bizarre one I’ve ever seen, it could hit over a fiver in a back wind https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/omar-there-s-nothing-like-this-1990-uk-indie-kongo-dance-kdlp-2.html

I got done in December for customs on a declared $19.99 package, which was under the £15 limit. You have to pay before the p.o. will release the package, the charge was £12 in my case, £4 customs and £8 p.o. fee. The p.o then directed me over the phone to the hmrc website to jump through hoops to get the customs money back. Looked like the £8 was going to be kept by the p.o. for collecting so I didn’t bother. Basically, what they did was illegal as they stole from me, but what can you really do when they behave like scum? better than when they tried charging me a ridiculous amount on a jap package that was 750 yen (£5) and they valued it as £750. The discussion at the p.o. was pointless and I refused the package!

Thanks, I would grab it but I suspect I already have it as Curtis was never singing on it as he’d left, unless proven otherwise

Can anyone confirm then, who owns a copy, that Curtis is on this version as he left the impressions a year before to be replaced by Leroy Hutson on the album this came from. Love to hear a clip of it, and if it is the case if anyone wants to sell me a copy drop me a message! cheers Sutty

PM’d you yesterday?

The Prisoner album mix is only on a cd single https://www.discogs.com/All-Blue-Prisoner/release/1702805 all the 12s are housed up remixes and probably not what you’re looking for I’d guess, cheers Sutty

I was in LA Saturday and was gutted to be told on Sunday morning about a soul event I’d just missed, at least I now know I didn’t miss it LOL

No shipping outside the USA

PM’d ya

It did, I have it on 7 as part of box set of the album which is not too expensive cheers Sutty [edit already answered...]

It was a bootleg as was the Tammi Terrell

The one one eBay came out quite a few years back now, I bought it for a fiver or something as I love the track, and they’d had my money years before that when I bought the cd box set. The sound quality on the 7 is excellent, they did Tammi Terrell ‘all I do’ in a 7 around the same time, cheers Sutty

It’s up to the person/company ordering the test pressings, usuallly it’s a small amount before the promo run is ordered to make sure the pressings ok, but you can order as many or as little as you want, so there is no real answer to the question on a release unless you find out from the company or pressings plant, cheers Sutty

It was also bootlegged on a 12 which is an extended version https://www.discogs.com/master/view/1253561 I have the 7 and 12 and they both sound good, the 12 should be pretty cheap to pick up - but the other side of the 7 is also really good https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jajLTEwKICU&time_continue=76 cheers Sutty

Keep you hair on, I was just pointing out that there is no original material on the album, I used to have the the LP after picking it up in a batch of albums and thought it was odd that someone had just taken a load of stang recordings and released it as their own album with their own pic in the cover. Or it was just a tax dodge? I do apologise for any offence and for actually discussing the music lol

This is the just moments on stang with some reverb on it and no original tracks just some muttering and heavy breathing over the top, strange record, more of a personal vanity project made by someone from someone else’s tracks. Very odd. cheers Sutty p.s. the moments original mixes are better, just in case anyone is not aware... you probably are I guess, quite why anyone wants to buy it is a mystery to me but each to his own!

Am I dreaming or did I read somewhere in the past that a band member (maybe Robert Tanner) said that the name in debate was made up by someone else as a name to release the album under and they had no say in it and never sanctioned the release, and never got paid a penny - it wasn’t the actual name of the band or they didn’t even have one at the time? That it was a bunch of guys recording someones songs (RT?) and they never actually played as a group, and somehow Sylvia Robinson heard the tapes and they got released. I might not have his quite right but it really rings a bell somewhere... cheers Sutty

It’s down to the songwriter to register tracks to royalty agencies around the world and keep their contact details up to date. Sign to a publisher and you get an advance on royalties and they chase the royalty agencies for you, and you only need to keep contact with the local publisher you’re signed to. A good one has the right system in place to collect royalties you may miss so although you are losing a % to the publisher then net amount you receive is more, and all at the same time in your royalty statement from them. It seems complicated but it’s not really, cheers Sutty

Check under settings - seller - edit shipping policy as most likely place to cause the problem cheers Sutty

So, to expand on the songwriter part, if a songwriter had not signed a publishing deal or its expired then the song is ‘copyright control’. This relies on the writer registering their song with every local royalty collection agency worldwide (UK PRS, USA ASCAP or BMI, etc). All royalties are initially paid to that local agency, and from there passed on to the songwriter (cop cont) or collected by the publisher who takes a % as a fee. The reason an artists signs to a publisher is to obtain an advance in royalties, and if the publisher is any good they register the song with local royalty collection agencies worldwide so the artists doesn’t have to. Anyone with a song that gets decent plays is highly likely to get more money via a publisher as if they don’t collect every royalty they can they are losing money as well. So when you are talking about a 50 year old song, assuming it’s still in copyright, written by someone unpublished and who has not kept their contact details up to date, plus licensing a recording from a company owner where the company no longer exists, then all those personal disputes that go on about who owns what, the lines on the right people getting paid can get very blurry, so yes lots of artists never get paid a penny. None of which excuses bootlegging. cheers Sutty

Unless anything has changed, the record company owns the rights to the recording for the term of the contract after which it defers to the artist. This is the owner if you want to license tracks for release. music played for instance in an ad is publishing royalties which go to the publisher of the song for the life of their contract and after that go to the songwriter. Cheers Sutty

Thanks for the ‘word of warning’, I’ve bought a couple of tickets for one of the concerts so what I’ll probably do instead is stay in with a pot noodle and have a hand shandy over an old soul fanzine while listening to some decidedly non-hit soul vinyls regards E. Holland, Detroit

Which is not the same thing as being the same song at all lol

Completely different songs?