Sutty

To question of all people Kenny Bobien's commitment to a performance or the content of his lyrics (re: his religion) is absolutely laughable. He's a gospel singer who religiously (excuse the pun) attends his church every week, has never got anywhere near making enough money out of music to make a decent living, and is still out there singing out of his love for music and his God. All the comparison's to the people mentioned fail because they were commercially successful artists who had massive hits, if Kenny was only in it for those reasons he'd have given up years ago. Whether the track floats your boat or not is a personal opinion, but to base the fact you might not like it as much as one of his older recordings as questioning his ability or commitment is just ludicrous and insulting to him. I wish there were more like him in the world, it'd be a better place. cheers Sutty

Don't know if it's the right price, but there's a copy of the Frankie Nieves 7" on the wall in the Soul and Dance Exchange, Notting Hill (London), just saw it earlier this evening, priced at £40 42 Notting Hill Gate London, W11 3HX Tel 020 7221 2793 cheers Sutty

Hi Dave Sold a mint copy for about 90 or a ton I think it went for last summer, took a couple of months to sell, reduced it from about £120. cheers Paul

That's a very good price, it has been going for over twice that. Try and get people at a soul do dancing to Pharoah Sanders lol, REP just gets away with it, although I also prefer the original personally like Andy cheers Sutty

PM'ed ya! cheers Sutty

There's at least 12 copies on Discogs starting at £1.49 for a minter, cheers Sutty

compared to 'a case of lovemaking' laughable, alma faye is complete rubbish, surely DJ's aren't subjecting other people to this nonsense are they, it's a second rate eurovision entry! cheers Sutty

NOW SOLD. Record has now found a new home to live out it's twilight years in comfort and will be annoying a new set of neighbours. cheers Sutty

Well seeing as a fellow sourcer's 7" of this just sold for over £90 with 6 bidders on da bay, if anyone who missed out is looking for a copy I also have a M- copy of Gil Scott Heron 'Lady Day and John Coltrane' c/w 'When You Are Who You Are' on Uk Philips 45, identical to the copy sold on ebay. £90 including registered post to anywhere in the world, paypal accepted at no extra charge to the buyer. Drop me a PM or mail soulcitizen@yahoo.co.uk , first person to mail gets the 45. If no-one on here was one of those outbid then i'll stick it up on da bay. or make me an offer... cheers Sutty (opportunism is my middle name )

and the album is wonderful, not a duff track on it - 'if i could only prove to you' is 70's soul perfection, you might even like it a little bit Pete lol

thanks for the answers on the dynamics guys, Sam's bonkers selling that! cheers Sutty

I can't see how this applies to this forum or situation? isn't this a clear case that Mike is saying if you are using the forum for personal attacks, pack it in. Seems entirely reasonable, like Mike i've also been running a soul forum for a long while and we have always had a 'no personal attacks' policy. Asking for a member to desist then suspending their account is sometimes the only way to deal with the equivalent of the loud mouthed offensive irritating drunk in the pub who's spoling everyone else night. Of course the drunk blames the person throwing them out and then abuses the pub in general for not wanting to have him around, but that's because some people can't see further than their own nose. Best of luck Mike and all, hope it works out ok, and thanks for the time and effort you all put in to the forum. cheers Sutty

Is Sam still playing Dynamics 'Only A Man'? is it really the Dynamics on Dyna, has anyone else got it, and when is someone going to let the rest of the world be able to play it at home, it's fantastic IMHO

they're all like that Chris, there's no solid centre of the 45, and the other side is even better. cheers Sutty

Hi Russ On Original 45, NO, it doesn't exist, LP only. Was reissued on a 45, noticed that Soul Brother have the reissue for sale. The absolute killer on the lp for me is 'don't blame me', which floors me everytime (although you can't dance to it!) cheers Paul

PM'ed you back fella

i've got a demo that looks a bit rough but plays ok with a few crackles, I think most folks describe this as 'fine for djing' lol it's cheap though - £10 including post in the UK of it's any help. But don't expect a minter, do expect a loud recording pressed loudly that does not skip. you can me soulcitizen@yahoo.co.uk - edit: just played it, looks and sounds much better than that description which was from memory, i've bought records described as excellent worse than this! cheers Sutty

i've got it on the moments meet the o'jay's album - which contains loads of killer tracks. I don't know which did and didn't make it to 45's, but if anyone's looking for caning northern sounds from the o'jays and hasn't go tthis lp - check it out. 'Ride Your Pony Girl' is fantastic, just a different sound to the tracks i'm talking about here.

all the 45's of this i've heard are really noisy, bad surface noise even when they've never been played? or are there copies out there that play clean? it's on a couple of moments lp's too, one UK and one USA, and the sound is perfect (in it's own way, it does have that sylvia robinson distorted production about it anyway). There's also a bizarre version on a 70's US indie album by 'pedro and the hands of time' or something similar, where he's taken a load of Moments tunes, split them into strict stereo and added a bit of echo, then he moans and sighs over the top. On the sleeve he claims it's his new album and he's not making anymore as he's found God and is going to be a pastor. He is featured on the cover in thick rimmed glasses leering rather suspectly over some girl in an evening dress on a bed while the rest of his 'band' look on. I forget the full title of the lp, I managed to sell it for a tidy sum to a Jap sweet soul collector years ago where it's in demand evidently... presumably for the cover. cheers Sutty

I have a copy for sale will drop you a PM in a sec cheers Sutty

Wasn't the situation on this one a bit different to the others, which were your productions. At the time you were passing off David Rhodes as an authentic 1974 press that you found a box of in Danny Leake's basement I think it was, when you in fact pressed them up knowing full well that they were not authentic 1974 pressings at all. I can understand how you would maybe make up a story about one of your own productions, as you say some quarters would probably look down on the record before they heard it - but in the case of David Rhodes, it did appear that this was a blatant attempt to make money by deception as it had no association with your productions. I'm not concerned over the politics or that it was actually yourself involved, but what was the reasoning behind this move other than deception and profit? i'm not here to beat you up, it's just I don't think you've ever stated why you made such a move, and I know that it got a lot of people's backs up - they were initially being trickled out and selling for £100/£150 a time, until the hoax was figured out/revealed. cheers Sutty

If it's the one I think it is Chris, it's all a bit supper-club, features a passable but dull version of 'ooh baby I love you' (freddie hughes), and it's not worth much at all, as it's almost impossible to sell to anyone! cheers and Happy New Year Paul

why bother making that negative comment? the guys just keen to hear some more music similar to what he's just discovered. Why the necessity to use it as an excuse to make an underhand comment quite probably meaning 'it ain't northern so it's shite'... sigh and happy xmas! cheers Sutty

to answer your question, it's not the future of the soul scene at all, it's music that's been around for years but maybe you just haven't heard. What I would say is if you like it that much and start checking out the jazzier side of things then you may go down a rather expensive, time-consuming but enjoyable path - congratulations you just discovered a musical sub-genre! (and I don't mean any of that patronisingly to you, nobody has heard everything - despite the claims of some people on the internet nowadays lol) check the schema label as a start if you like the more recent production style. try some soundclips on juno, they have a jazz/breakbeat section to trawl through. cheers Sutty

It's a scam Dave, they don't have any records. All they have done is copy other peoples sales inventories and then advertise the same records for sale at a ludicrously high price. If anyone bites and places an order they buy the record from someone else then ship on at a vast profit, if they can't get a copy they say it's already sold. I can't believe Gemm still allow them on there but I suppose they will require some real proof that this is a con, and apart from asking to go round and see their non-existent collections, I can't see how they'll be able to prove anything. Sadly, some people actually believe these are the correct prices records sell for, when they are just pie-in-the-sky nonsense! ARCHDD has over a third of a million items for sale, but only has 23 feedbacks in over 5 years, so it can't be that lucrative, but I guess you only need a few people a year to bite and you've got a grand for doing nothing! cheers and season's greetings Paul