Sutty

That's just not very good music, whatever you want to classify it as. I agree on 'Follow The Leader', it's my fave rap album of all time, but rap hasn't disappeared, someone like Common for example has made some great albums, and there's many more top artists since then. Like finding decent modern soul, look a little deeper than the mainstream for quality. It's rap btw, hip hop is a lifestyle :thumbup:

No I didn't really move to mp3, if you read my mail I have always predominantly bought vinyl as it's my preferred format, I grew up with it. My point is we are the exception in this age and you have to accept that whether you like it or not. Going on about how vinyl rules and saying it's making a comeback are just side-issues, it's not going to change what's happening, downloads are increasing, physical product is declining, there will continue to be a collectors market for vinyl but it's gone from the medium that people will use and will not return in anything like the volume of pressings or sales it did in the last 50 years. We are on the same side of the fence here, most people are not. cheers Sutty

Vinyl as a medium didn't have that long a shelf life in the great history of music, less than 100 years, just that it was the first real medium that popularised the sale of recorded music. We just happen to feel we were lucky to grow up with it and love it and often still see it as the norm, but it's not anymore. As a medium for new music there will be less and less places to press it, and less and less equipment available to play it on, and the market will shrink as time goes on. CD's will be worthless in the same way as 8-track and cassettes long before that though as they've already been superseded by mp3 and wav, people who bought cd's only really wanted recording quality and convenience, not the actual product itself. People who buy vinyl want the whole thing, but a lot of it is a romanticised view of the whole process of owning and listening to music, looking at the sleeve of an album or design of a label, i've been part of that too. It's about a period in time, but it's going to be over in the not too distant future. Nothing is more certain than change, enjoy it while you're here to, but don't expect it to be the norm or popular ever again. There will always be small pockets of young people keeping it alive in the future, but small pockets are all it will be, kids growing up today have much more 3-dimensional and interactive ways of spending their time and money than staring at a lump of plastic on a crackly deck. I'd love it all to be different, but it's not, so just accept it, enjoy it, and move on. IMHO. cheers Sutty

believe what you like guys, i've found 2 copies in the last 2 years for less than £10 without really trying, my mates was 1 euro which I admit was a fluke, but sorry this is nowhere near a £75 record, but good luck if you can get that for it!

I have the left copy, and was with a friend when he picked up the right copy, it had no reference to p-vine on it, it was a USA issue. The label names are slightly different but similar graphics so maybe a 1st and 2nd press from the 70's. Either way it's not worth a fortune, about £10 should get you a copy. Nice version of 'you brought it on yourself' as done by Barbara Hall. cheers Sutty

one here John https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marvin-Gaye-Far-Cry-Heavy-Love-Affair-12-MOTOWN_W0QQitemZ250389364555QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item3a4c5e7f4b probably more if you check the usual Gemm/Musicstack/Discogs, etc - not an expensive item, cheers Sutty

Marvin re-edit? there is a 'revenge' bootleg but it's not very good https://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/356162-01.htm The original 12" is cheap and is the same as the album version but with a nice loud cut, and there is an extended version on the 'in our lifetime' double cd. cheers Sutty

it's on 4" single with his lp

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'Fine' (that's a song by her btw) - although many will claim it's not for reasons below... Whether you like it/Whitney or not, she is a soul singer in the same way that anyone at motown was a soul singer/black pop singer. Most of this thread is more about 60's music fans not liking most post-60's productions - which is fine if that's your taste, but don't start rewriting history to accommodate your personal taste in music, especially as it's a scene that lists records by Patti Page amongst its plays lol (how much is that dooggiiiee in the window....) cheers Sutty

Might be a more convincing argument if it was backed up with something a bit deeper than quoting a comedian. Maybe you should consider where people like James Jamerson and the funk brothers came from, what they spent their spare time playing when not in the studio, and how jazz along with r'n'blues and gospel were the foundation of 99.99% of the music discussed on this forum and played on the soul scene, rather than shallow second hand sound-bytes from latter-day media figures in the UK. As Godzilla is saying (I think), blanket dismissal of an entire genre of music is pretty misinformed and reflects more on the person making the criticism than the music - IMHO. cheers Sutty

and an even better 3 from them 'love takes tears' 'raining through my sunshine' 'children of the ghetto' cheers Sutty

from the 90's a very small selection from the south, junior giscombe 'morning will come' esperanto 'glad that you were mine' young disciples 'apparently nothing' joanna law 'softly as in a morning sunrise' groove nation 'slow motion' mica paris 'you' cheers Sutty

I think you mean 'free jazz' Mart, all jazz is improvised, that's the main thing that differentiates it from other forms of music. I wouldn't bother quoting Tony Wilson mr hoppopitimus, he was a self-publicist who was more interested in making sweeping statements for effect than really saying anything, he was a wind up merchant (albeit a very funny one with a catchy line in banter, so respect to him) Either you like jazz or you don't, that's it really, nobody's right or wrong on it. I'd prefer it if you all didn't like jazz to keep the price of jazz records down. cheers Sutty

I don't think that was an original lp, it's an 80's release (comp), they didn't release the 1964 version of 'who's that lady' on anything other than the united artists 45. The 70's version on epic was a massive global hit of course, but the '64 single bombed and didn't get any release outside the USA. It took me years to find this 45, very elusive, and in the end cost me about $3 as a chance find. If it was on stateside i'd be surprised as i've never seen it listed in any discography, and the UA LP doesn't feature the track. It is available for download on amazon for 69p though! cheers Sutty

I know where you're coming from

The 'Hot' lp is not rare just wait for one to turn up, it's a common lp around a tenner. Also contains 'So Long' which is better then 'Sentimental', neither the 45 or the LP should command any great price. cheers Sutty

yes it did in Argentina at least, here's a scan of my copy cheers Sutty

It looks better to the eyes aesthetically, but for usability it's got worse for me in that I don't want to see a load of scans of labels when searching for a record, I just want to browse through a list, and that won't improve for me when the pics are replaced by actual record scans. The more info on a page the better that's relevant for what i'm looking for, with an option to click on a list entry and see the scan if required, would be the way i'd prefer personally. So much that in reality I won't be using the site very much to search for records, as it's ease of use has diminished. Congratulations on the nice design, but it's design over content for me at the moment, which can often happen with websites, but as John has said it's an ongoing project, so i'm not trying to kick anyone in the teeth over it, these things take time... don't lose your eye on the prize (selling records) cheers Paul

Everytime this record is mentioned I have to smile, I sold a copy years back to a very well known northern soul dj and promoter, it was a good deal both ways so no complaints there. What made me laugh tho' was I went to post it, and on the way back home popped into a local shop and opened up manifesto. The record was proudly sitting at number 1 in his last months 'top nighter dancefloor reaction spins', which was pretty amazing considering it had not even been bought yet alone got to the sorting office at the time of printing lol

its the same recording Russ, just not remixed or sped up. 'Tell the Story' is a house bootleg of 'Jesus Children' by Stevie and Be Be Winans which was the official release. Played it when it came out to much rolling of eyes at the time, one rather well-known soul dj said "is this soul music then?" at the time lol, and to be fair, it's actually not sounding all that good again really for me. The original 12 is great - and check Shirley Caesar's cover which is very good too. This thread is possibly the most absurd thread i've ever read on here. cheers Sutty

never mind the real USA one - what about this lot with money to throw down the pan! lol https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/auction/newli...tionItemID=4014

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