Just a personal slant on this Barry.....in the early days....me and the ex didn't comply to the norm, with regards to anything other than pro-plus and to a degree were ostracised which was sometimes uncomfortable on a 52 seater......I would hazard a guess that out of the 52, myself and the ex are the only individuals still attending some 35 years on, from aforementioned 52 seater....with regard to cliques..they existed in the early 70's and to some extent, some of the same cliques still exist today, however, and whilst respect is due to many....I will never ever know the words to every favourite tune, or even proclaim to know everything about anything associated with our scene.....other than I've loved every minute of it musically.....the rest is ..... personal ! Respect wilxy