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Gay Poppa - Mercy Baby - Custom Sound
Stompingsevens replied to Stompingsevens's topic in Record Wants
OK but is the flippside to either (or both) of the other issues the same as the Custom Sound 45, that is 'Gay poppa's Cha Cha'? -
Gay Poppa - Mercy Baby - Custom Sound
Stompingsevens replied to Stompingsevens's topic in Record Wants
I just played it on YT and it would appear it is the same but I don't know what the flip is on the Jacobs 45, do you have a copy? -
PM me with condition and price please.
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We are all allowed our opinions and thank you for yours, it's appreciated. I will carry on with my view that UK issues of the original US issues are in fact re-issues and nothing discussed here has changed my mind. You please carry on with the thought that your Uk issues are originals. Thanks.
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Yes, I do buy originals for very large amounts of money that are available on other formats but I am a record collector and I buy original pressings, I travel to the USA extensively hunting down R&B 45's a couple of times a year if I can. The point is that this is a re-issue and the only reason it's being bought (I'm guessing) is because of it's OTT price tag and that seems a bit dumb to me. All this fuss over a 45 that you can buy an original copy of for £30..........?? Beatles collectors (worldwide) consider the UK issues the original pressings because they are 'country of origin' and I think the same applies to Soul, Reggae and R'n'R markets aswell. I collect UK Ska and Reggae 45's but I'm fully aware these are just re-issues of original JA issues, although it should be mentioned that the UK issues do often differ from the JA originals, thus making them 'original' in their own right. This is just my personal opinion of course but it's interesting that it seems to have struck such a raw nerve! Stamp collectors................!!! Enjoy your filing systems.............
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I'm very calm dear so please don't fret, it's you who made this personal by accusing me of being pedantic when I feel I was just stating facts as I see them. I wasn't aiming my comments at anyone in particular just anyone who cares to read a few different viewpoints on the 'message board'. I think maybe you feel a bit distressed that I've questioned your record collecting choices by suggesting you collect re-issues. I wouldn't worry, I buy re-issues and originals too. it's really no big deal. I guess I'm just an old teddy Boy who doesn't understand the subtleties of collecting on the Soul scene. I own the Revilot 45 too and personally I'm happy save the other £14,970 to spend on other true ORIGINAL US records or re-issues that don't cost 15K a pop, there's some great one's out there for £6.00 each! Just got to go and sort my DA out as it's Christmas, gaawd bless ya!
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Hey, it's not me who brought up the re-issue thing, this is just my viewpoint which is based on facts rather than some romantic, I must hang on to my youth, oh it was better back in the day, if only these youngsters knew, kind of non-reality. You carry on blowing 15k on re-issues just so you can show how big your knob is. Stamp collectors!!!. I love 'em, now where's my bootlace tie..................
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Hi, The records you are talking about are 'original UK issues' but they are still re-issues of the ORIGINAL US pressings. This is how the music arrived in it's earliest form onto the market and thus makes the US pressing the one and only original pressing. Just because this is way a lot of great music was introduced to people over here who had no access to the US originals at the time of issue in the 60's does not then exclude the fact that these are secondary issues, and it certainly does not therefore make them 'more original'. You can't have two ORIGINAL (different) pressings and call them both original in the same way. One must be the original and the other a copy of that original. I just looked up the word 'ORIGINAL' on the online dictionary and it states: B1 [usually before noun] existing since the beginning, or being the earliest form of something:
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Hi Rod, I can only speak for myself but this old Teddy Boy doesn't really care about demo/ regular issues as long as the damn thing plays well. Given the choice at the same price and condition on a particular record I would probably take the demo as the chances are you would be buying a better quality pressing. In the 50's quite a few of the DJ 'demo' copies were pressed on better quality vinyl, sometimes coloured (pure) and also, obviously, earlier off the stamper. It's widely accepted that quite a few of the big hits on specialty records were run from a single pair of stampers which means the quality after the first 50,000 pressed drops dramatically, after 200,000 the stampers degrade and the musical content gets 'thin'. The Little Richard hits are hard to find on good quality pressings as they sold so many. This was apparently due to Art Rupe (label owner) being notoriously tight fisted! I find your comment about my explanation being correct to a 'limited extent' baffling, also the statement 'practice and accepted definitions on our scene'?? I think you lot need to wake up and smell the coffee, a second pressing is a re-issue to the one (and there can be only one) ORIGINAL pressing. That is true wether the ORIGINAL pressing is USA, UK or for arguments sake, German! This is also interesting when it comes to original label variations, quite often an ORIGINAL pressing of a record can be available on slightly differing label variations and a lot of time and energy is put into working out which is the true 'first press' ORIGINAL pressing. It then baffles me that you lot welcome with open arms such crazy prices on a bang to rights bonafide re-issue on a totally different (in this case London) pressing. Your point is interesting about the possibility that the London pressing of the Banks 45 may be even a third or fourth press due to it being re-issued in other countries before the UK (re-) issue. I guess this old Teddy Boy is obviously missing something here but I would finish on this, the general population of the planet thought the world was flat until somebody pointed out and proved otherwise. There can only be ONE TRUE ORIGINAL pressing of a record regardless of your 45 years + of experience on the soul scene and I think you have obviously got the wrong (and far more expensive!) end of the stick on this point. Now where did I put those fluorescent socks............?
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No, That's the only way of looking at it, there can only be ONE ORIGINAL pressing, all others are second, third or fourth pressings. The London pressing in question is an original Uk pressing but it is still a second pressing overall and still a re-issue of the one true ORIGINAL pressing. Simples............ I must get going as 'On The Buses' is just about to start "Veraaa!"
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Well me and my Teddy Boy mates all understand that the London issues are just re-issues of the USA originals and there is no disputing that. They are re-issues because they all came out AFTER the original USA issues. As for your comment 'It's all about having the record on it's rarest format', - please tell me you are joking, that is just a stamp collecting, these records are supposed to do what they were designed for, which is to be played, hopefully danced to and enjoyed. Just got to go and get my drape pressed by the Missus............
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That's a lot of money for what is fundamentally a re-issue, it's funny because I read so much negative stuff on this site about repro's, boots and re-issues and then there's a foreign (not country of origin) re-issue selling for very large amount of wonga when you could buy a bonafide original for a fraction of the price. Maybe the buyer collects only re-issues!. It all seems a bit crazy to this old Teddy Boy. Pass us the brylcream and a number 6 would ya............
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I've had some joy on removal of scratches on 45's by playing them on my 78 turntable with my 78 stylus which is wider and (if you add a bit of weight) heavier than a 45 set up. I play the scratch through quite a few times and this can rectify the problem by 'widening' the groove and pushing the plastic back into shape. This method is more likely to work if the damage is high in the groove and not at the bottom. Might be worth a go if you have any friends who are 78 enthusiasts - you cannot beat them for sound!
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Wanted - Count Demon - My Isabella - Po' Boy
Stompingsevens replied to Stompingsevens's topic in Record Wants
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Wanted - Guitar Frank - Wild Track - Brydges
Stompingsevens replied to Stompingsevens's topic in Record Wants
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Wanted - Miss Ann Littles - I Will Be Got Dog - Usa 830
Stompingsevens replied to Stompingsevens's topic in Record Wants
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There's a copy of the Teddy Mccrae up on eBay just now. Jesse
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Just Three (3) Real Great R&b/mod Obscurities Up For Grab
Stompingsevens replied to Costas's topic in Record Sales
PM'd you on the Nu Sound 45.......... -
Hi Pete, Where are you based? Wouldn't mind taking a look and listen............. Jesse
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Hi Matt, Nice selection, the Argo is tough to find, I can send you dubs on a CD of these tracks from the 45's but do not have any for sale just now.