Dave Thorley

Ended at over $1600 and still not hit the reserve, but someone give him a call I'm sure he'll let it go for $2500 !!!!!

Let me just simply say 'The Count' god bless him......................

Butch's comments now remind me that I also got a 10" acetate of The Blenders around the same time from John, which I played at Stafford for about a year, before selling it to him.

Jackey Beavers - Lover come back/Gee Your a pretty thing - Jaber £620 +P&P (Mint-, slightest edge warp, otherwise Mint, plays Mint) Insanely rare, recorded in Detroit with his good buddy Jack Hill.killa 60's midtempo dancer, With a little thumper on the flip.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKcRh9cgLPo Jimmy Helms - Your past is beginning to show - Oracle £15 +P&P (Stone Mint) Old school 60's classic dancer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrRxGqWoc0w Johnny Daniels & The Soul Malibu's - Make me feel so good - SMR £20 +P&P (Mint) Under the radar, killa modern soul from Greenville, Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n63sCvxFsuE James Brown - Soul Pride - King Demo £12 +P&P (Mint-) Rare yellow demo, of this funk dancefloor destroyer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEoBKKiX_Eg Jackie Lee - Would you believe - Mirwood £20 +P&P (VG+) Fred Smith & James Carmichael on this classic indemand 60's West Coast winner https://youtu.be/6tW5ZoK5C5k Jeanne & The Darlings - Soul Girl - Volt £20 +P&P (Mint-) Rarer vinyl copy of this great 'Soul Man' answer song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PC0TeeGFXk Jimmy Gilford - Heartbreaker - Solid Hit £50 +P&P (VG+) One of the great 60's Detroit beat ballads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWeKZhttKVc

Monofide - Come along with me - Emvee £25 +P&P (Mint) Uptempo group modern soul from 1980 Montclairs - I just can't get away - Paula £30 +P&P (Mint) Pretty midtempo group crossover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOGNPA6yP3Y Magic - Sunshine - Alma £55 +P&P (Mint) Hard to find blue eyed modern soul winner Patti Austin - I wanna be loved - Coral £40 +P&P (VG+) 60's midtempo thumper from Patti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3yRFNWnR4 Otis Leavill - I'm amazed - Limelight White Demo £40 +P&P (Mint-) Rare White demo of this Stafford midtempo classic Persianettes - Call on me - Strata £150 +P&P (Mint-) Rare first label, great hand clapping 60's Philly dancer Puzzles - I need you - Fat Back £70 (Mint) Nice midtempo 60's group dancer Platters - Washed ashore - Musicore White Demo £25 +P&P (VG+) Great Wylie/Hester produced and written classic, here on the harder white demo

True, I have a bunch of Bell Sound 7" acetates that have different artists on each side. But John got them from the Leaner Brothers, the label owners, who told him they were The Ringleaders. Also, many years later this was confirmed by the group when Bob spoke to one of them.

Didn't I sound young !!!!, clearly multi-tasking wasn't my strong point. Also must have been playing the original discs, as I had to change speed for one of them. Forgotten that, 'All of my life' played at 45rpm, but 'Win you over' at 331/3. This must have been the second week I played them.

Spoke to Dennis some years ago an he remembers recording it. He said the guy that cut the record never paid him on it and didn't tell him he had put it out, it wasn't until many years later that he realised it had been released. It does turn up from time to time in Detroit in black neighborhoods, so clearly did sell a few copies.

a couple of sound files asked for

Hi All www.topdogrecords.co.uk Still got the problem with the order cart, so PM me or email davethorleyuk@gmail.com Anyway, lotsa new stuff, New Discoveries, Northern, Funk, Modern, Gospel & R&B (Yes even some R&B from us). 'From the hard to find, too the just palin good'. So lots to look through, all with sound files including these................. Anthony White - Hey baby - PIR W/D £80 Love Commitee - Heaven only knows - Ariola £40 Kim Weston - A thrill a moment - Gordy £55 Dee Clark - That's my girl - Constellation £70 Cold Smoke featuring Charlie Perkins - Don't fall in love - Drining Wild Production £125 De Vons - Somebody to treat me - King Demo £65 Soul Liberation - Come together - Creative Arts £200 Mel Vena Allen - If I were an orange- Salvador £150 True Direction - I found a lady - Gold Coin £150 Van McCoy - I'm in love with my baby - Buddah £30 Ideals - Mo Garrilla - Courtland £35 John Gary Williams - The whole world is going crazy - Stax £55 Earl Duff - Little girl of mine - Cee Dee £30 Sonny Harris - The Vibration - San-El £275 Esther Phillips - Nobody but you - Roulette Demo £55 Plus a whole bunch more, over 500 new titles across the site. Thanks for looking, hope you find something you like www.topdogrecords.co.uk Dave & Malayka

Now you say that Steve, yes think you're right, a rare moment from Russ

Yellow and green originals. Think it was a Richard Searling spin

Here is the track that wasn't booted on the 45

To my knowledge, no one has ever released the tracks legally. The Leaner Brothers are now dead, the rights to the tracks sit with the family, I think one of the son's is trying to sort things out. Bob Abrahamian and others in Chicago have spoken to the group and the family and may know more.

Ok here my bit……………. I got the two 10” discs about 82 from John Anderson at Soul Bowl. I was on one of my regular trips down there with Ady Pountain and had spent up my budget for the trip, in there was the first copy of The Empires, the white test pressing of Geno Washington — Rat Race and a bunch of other things, at the end of the day, we totalled everything up and I paid John. Now he had this awful habit of then pulling out a few things, playing them to you and saying ‘what do you think of this’, he played the two discs and I said ‘fantastic John, but I can’t afford them’ he smiled and said ‘that’s OK you can owe me for them’ and so I went into the famous credit book for the first, but not last time !!! They cost me £600 for the two, which was about 3 month’s wages back then. I remember driving home with Ady beaming from ear to ear and discussing which tracks to cover up. So on the way home we came up with Johnny & The Mondells for the The Empires and The Detroit Five for the Geno Washington. John told me at the time I got them that he had got them from the Leaner Brothers in Chicago. One disc had ‘baby what has happened/Win you over’ and the other ‘All of my life/???(Ballad). As soon as I got home I got ‘All of my life/Win you over’ cut onto a 7” acetate. The 10” discs were blank with no info on the discs, but titles written on the sleeves, common for acetates, I have many like that. I didn’t cut ‘Baby what has happened’ as I already had a copy. A week later these and the two cover ups hit the decks at Stafford and the rest is history, as they say. When Stafford finished I sold a large part of my 60’s collection back to John Anderson including these two acetates, he then sold them onto a guy in Ipswich. I did try and buy them back in the early 90’s, but he said he didn’t want to sell them. After selling them I did carry on playing the 7” dub, my choice, right or wrong !!!!, and still have it to this day. A couple of years ago John Manship contacted me to tell me he had them and was going to auction them and could I help authenticate them which I happily did. As for Tim Brown’s comments on his CD, he never asked me about the discs, but did make comment that the naming of the group for these tracks was spurious, well clearly not, especially as one of them had ‘Baby what has happened’ on one side. The story has a twist in the tail, Butch rang me to ask me about the discs, as he was interested in bidding on them. A week later he told me he had won them and I thought no more of it. A couple of weeks later, he rang me again to tell me the discs were no good for DJing, it transpires that he took them to Lifeline, having not played them at home first. When he dropped the needle on ‘All of my life’ the sound was two low a level for the sound system there and he had to take it off half way through. After a moments pause I said, ‘Now I remember why I had them cut onto a 7” dub plate’ !!!!!!!

Perfections - Girl you better hurry - Tri-City £175 +P&P (Mint) Hard to find Chocker Cambell produced, Michigan midtempo 60's group dancer

Last one 4 2day Andre Williams - You got it and I want it - Ric Tic £20 +P&P (Mint) Same backing as the supa rare Fabulous Apollos - Determination. Killa Detroit dancer at a fraction of the price !!!!!!!!!!! https://youtu.be/GxhmmRXC_c8

Plus one more The Brothers - Are you ready for this - Rca £20 +P&P (Mint) All time 70's classic

Sound clips for all on my site www.topdogrecords.co.uk I.U. Soul Revue featuring The Lovemen - Music is just a party - Afro-Amersican Arts Institute £100 +P&P (VG+) Hard to find funky modern soul dancer Intensions - I don't care anymore - Bluelight £55 +P&P (Mint-) Cool midtempo 60's group dancer Ronnie McNeir - You better come on down / Saggitarian affair - Prodigal £15 +P&P (Mint) 70's Detroit modern soul classic 2 sider Ralph Young - Cool Off The Floor - Goldband £45 +P&P (Mint) Cool NOLA modern soul funky dancer Rozetta Johnson - A womans way / Mine was real - Clinton £25 +P&P (VG+) Sam Dees produced crossover 2 sided stunner

Funny how these rumors spread. It seems it comes from a discussion on Discogs (A rival). But in reality, all my payments have come through fine. They did have an office move, which seems to slowed down a few payments. But don't think their in real trouble. See a part of the Discogs thread below................ Hot on the heels of Netsounds being snapped up by Musicstack, is the GEMM marketplace in trouble? A couple of threads in the Musicstack seller lounge where some (though not all) sellers who use GEMM as well as Musicstack have been concerned about the delays in receiving payments from GEMM for sales and lack of communication and transparency regarding why the payments are late. Note that GEMM, unlike Discogs and Musicstack, handles the payments for transactions between buyers and sellers; so if you're selling on GEMM, you receive the proceeds from your sales on GEMM from GEMM itself, minus their commission. Any sellers here on Discogs also sell on GEMM and have experienced the same problem? Whilst the more online marketplaces there are for selling music, the better, as a dominant position by any one marketplace will most likely tempt them to leverage that dominance by charging a higher commission than their competitors but GEMM have singularly failed to innovate or build on their first-mover advantage. I used them (as a buyer) about the time that I started using eBay back in 2002 but apparently they've been around since 1994. In the time since I first used them, the website's appearance and functionality has barely changed so if they are in trouble, then it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I remember receiving a newsletter around 18 months ago that had an almost pleading tone, trying to entice the recipients back to the site; am guessing that was sent due to a consistent decline in web traffic.

Someone told me that Gemm was having financial problems, can anyone on here shed any more light on this ????

Andre Williams - You got it and I want it - Ric Tic £20 +P&P (Mint) Same backing as the supa rare Fabulous Apollos - Determination. Killa Detroit dancer at a fraction of the price !!!!!!!!!!! https://youtu.be/GxhmmRXC_c8

He cut some great records, this is one of my fav's

He's a few interesting LP 4 you Okeh - Various artists (Double Pack) - Epic Still Sealled £20 +P&P Found a couple of these in an old record store in the U.S. A double pack LP set, put out in 1982, stuffed full of rare soul classic from the label, now hard to find and this one is still sealed. See track listing in scan..................... Disco Tech #2 - Various Artists - Motown £15 +P&P Mint- Cool LP stuffed full of Motown 70's dancers including Eddie Kendricks - Date with the rain Quartet Of Soul 2 - Various Artists - Musicor £30 +P&P Mint Dancers from the Platters, Tommy Hunt, Jive Five, Inez & Charlie Foxx His Way With The Girls - Various Artists - Soul Supply £10 +P&P Mint Classic girl 60's dancers, Paula Durante, Martha Starr, Vivian Carroll, Sherrys, Ella Woods + more Spanky Wilson - Specialty Of The House - 20th Century £50 Mint- Al Kent produced stunner, with the LP only monster crossover side 'Easy Lover'

Sons Of Moses - Soul Symphony - Coral £30 +P&P (Mint) Piano intro, stabbing horns, instrumentals come no better, stomping time baby .... Sensations with Yvonne Baker - I can't change - Junior £75 +P&P (VG+) Great version of the Lorraine Chandler song, rarer fist issue orange label Sam Waymon - You can count on me - Ninandy £20 +P&P (Mint) Uptempo 60's Stafford classic dancer Sargeant Malone - Love message - Halfmoon £140 +P&P (Mint) Oh so hard to find 45 of this modern soul stunner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIaDsYVpWhs Sam Dees & Bettye Swann - Just as sure - Big Tree £30 +P&P (Mint-) Only on the hard to find issue, stunning midtempo crossover