Dave Thorley

Should have kept it Wayne, great double sider as a mis-press

Cheers Mate, yep I've got both as correct pressings, but came across this variant today

Anyone else got one of these ? Percy & Them -All day & night / Scoping you - Fee UR1869 But 'Scoping you' side plays Bill Merriweather - That's love - Fee UR 1868

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Spoke to Martin over the weekend, he's now finished his medication and with the all clear he received a few months ago, is in good spirits. Still gonna be a while before he's able to get out and about, but is looking forward to seeing every one at his birthday bash at Boomerang Aug 2nd

Thanks for all your posts. Funny enough up until only a few years ago there were still a bunch in Skippy Whites, but think they have now gone. As for The Creations, no they didn't record anything as a group. Know what you mean Jordi fantastic group ballad, shame they didn't stay together longer, but they were young and some of them very ambitious, so those members wanted to move on to what they thought would be greater success.

So this is Butch's full story........................... He started singing at high school in Louisville with a group called The Creations at middle school, then joined The Marvells when he was at Ahren's High School, Butch wrote a song 'Smile for you' for the group that they then recorded. In 1969 he joined The Heartbreakers. This group had been formed two years earlier by Eddie Haynes and recorded a 45 on Miracle records, owned by a local lawyer Ms. Ora Miracle. For the next couple of years he continued singing with this group. Apart from Butch and Eddie Hayes, Curtis (TC) Wiggins Elzy White made up the group, Elzy also owned the label Derby-City records. They recorded a further 45 on Derby-City, 'I've got to face it/How do you say goodbye', this was recorded at United Sound in Detroit, as Elzy love the Motown sound and was trying to get a Temptations feel to the recordings. the first side had Curtis on lead vocals, the second side with Eddie on lead, backing was provided by session musicians at United Sound studio. After the group broke up he along with Eddie Haynes joined a group called Enterprise The full line up was the aformentioned plus Kenneth Morton, Al Marshall and James Nes Neblett They had limited success in the Louisville area playing the clubs including The Frontiersman & The Palm. As an aside these two clubs also had record labels named after them, which Curtis Wiggins, after The Heartbreakers broke up recorded on one of them, Palm and release 2 45's. Frontiersman was the label that Leroy Barbour - recorded 'I ain't going nowhere and a song by local writer Phillip Mitchell 'Find me'. Enterprise did go into the studio and recorded a number of sides including a track that Butch felt they should have been released called 'Love bandit'. Tapes of this track got sent round all the local stations and had a fair amount of play for a few months, but no release was forth coming. With no real success with this group, His next stop was to join the house band at The Joe's Palm club called Crisis through the 80's he sang and played with them and a group called Area Code 502. In the early 90's he became the presenter of a TV show called Satrgazer, which showcased local groups. When this ended Butch felt that music wasn't going to provide him a living for much longer, so got a job at GE. Butch's love of music never waned, and a stroke of fate produced his last two sets of recordings. His immediate work mates were always playing blues, one day he asked them why the blues, not R&B with. They said 'because it comes from deep inside and has more feelin' Butch said to them I'm going to write you guys a song. Some weeks later he came to work with his guitar and played them the song, they were blown away and said he must record this and anymore music he had. So a year later in 2006 Butch found himself releasing his album 'Introducing Butch Williams'. This was a mix of soul & blues classics plus some songs of his own, including the self penned number 'Keep on lovin' me the way that you do'. This was recieved well and this track got air play around the world and the CD a 5 star Amazon rating, which he is very proud of. This was followed by another album in 2012 containing mainly blues tracks, called 'How do you like me now?' . Butch has now retired from GE and is passionate about helping conserve and promote the musical heritage of the city of Louisville, most recently working his old friend Ron (Mr. Wonderful) Lewis and The Kentucky Music Hall Of Fame to create a permanent section for the cities R&B artists.

This guy is sitting in my house now..........Butch Williams of the Heartbreakers. Butch tells me that this 45 was recorded at United Sound in Detroit, WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!! The Heartbreakers were a Louisville group, this was their second 45 recorded in 1968, a moment of magic !!!!!!!!!!!!, lead vocals on this side are by Eddie Haynes. The flip side and the uptempo side 'I've got to face it' had Curtis Wiggins, known as TC on lead vocals. This is the same guy that later recorded on Palm records 'Stand up when I talk to you' https://youtu.be/HP7I4rRz3nc The group also had an earlier 45 on Miracle Mile, but this was before Butch joined the group. After this second 45 the group broke up and all went their different way. Curtis Wiggins recording a further 2 solo 45's on Palm, Butch got a job at GE and it wasn't till 2002 that he recorded again, putting out 2 nice soul & blues CD. Nice bit of throw away Louisville info. Both the Palm label and Frontiersman, the label Leroy Barbour came out on, were names taken from old clubs in the city.

Yep funny enough this stemmed from me going past it a few times in a box in the last month or so, as you do. Eventually I pulled it out and gave it a spin and thought to myself, bugger me this is good. Even played it in last weeks radio show, at which point messages and the show page on Facebook lite up, so clearly a few of that opinion. New to some and fondly remembered by others.

Hi Anyone got a copy of this for sale or trades from my site. Trying to find a copy for a buddy in the States. Thanks Dave

Lastly, listening to the vocals on the Kool 45, he sings that he's glad to be back in Houston, that he had a great time in KC, hanging on 19th & Vine. Well KC could be Kansas City and it does have a 19th & Vine streets, so who knows.............

As for the possibility of Tommy Tate's Tommy & The Derbys being the same group as the one on Kool. Well that would sound more feasible as Jackson & Houston aren't that far apart, but none of Tommy's old buddies down in Jackson can remember him working down in Houston and the voice just don't sound right. Tommy Tate has a fairly distinctive voice.

No I'm not saying Tommy Smith is Tommy & The Derbys on Kool, just that it might be, but can't confirm it. Tommy Smith is a common name, but Tommy & The Derbys I would say is less so. So it is possible that the Kool 45 and the group backing The Carpets are one in the same, but no one involved with either can confirm that.

Tommy & The Derbys - don't play the role is Tommy Tate and a Jackson, Mississippi 45. Where as The Carpets are from Kansas City and were a vocal group that used local combo Tommy Smith and the Derby for backing. Now as far as I can tell the Kool 45 which is from Houston, was not Tommy Tate, so could have been Tommy Smith. But neither the late owners son of Kool records or members of The Carpets can confirm this and I have spoken to both on the subject. Tommy Smith is to my knowledge dead.

Hi Guys Bunch more just gone up on the site, including these bright shiny things..................... Amalgamated Funk Co. - I wanna take you out - Single B £30 Elvin Spencer - Lift this hurt - Winner £100 Debbie Taylor - Just won't pay - Arista £25 Curtis Wiggins - Stand up when I talk to you - Palm £50 Pace-Setters - Jesse Jackson - Kent £25 Collins & Collins - Top of the stairs - A&M £150 O.C. Smith - Double life - Columbia £25 Spookey Jones & The Soul Disciples - Going back home - Two Kats £70 Matt Covington - Baby I'm for real - April £175 Jim Mann & The Blackmailers - Rap on - Mel W/D £50 Adorables - Ooh boy - Golden World £240 Walter Heath - You know your wrong don't you brother - Buddah £30 Plus a bunch more all with sound files and descriptions on the site www.topdogrecords.co.uk Thanks for looking Dave & Malayka

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Hi All Do all copies of the 45 'I'm so glad' have a double fade out at the end. Looking on Youtube most have a 2.27 run, just one fade out, But a couple have it at 2. 41 runwith a double fade out. So are they all the same and some just recorded it up to the end of the first fade or are there different pressings 2.27 run 2. 41 run

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I also think this is the same group as The US on Jaber. As for it sounding like or un-like The Holidays, it has a similar feel to their vocal style when they were on Rob-Ron, so thought it a good C/U name at the time. Unlikely that there were many pressed of this, still play it from time to time, great group soul.

Hi All Another nice bunch of 45's just gone up on the site, including these shiny, pretty things............. Solid Gold Revue featuring Ray Crumley - She's so good - Castanet £150 Al Kent - The way you've been acting lately - Ric Tic £25 ......SOLD Elanthony - Sweet Jo-Ann/Will you wait - Star-vue £60 Exciting Changes - I've got something good for you - West Hill £150 Doc & Sal - Laughing to keep from crying - Dynamics £100 Incredible Rock City Band - She turns me out - Mountain Music £120 Lost Soul - I'm your love man - Glasco £65 ......SOLD Manuel & Main Source - We got make it happen - Source £75 Maurice Vaughn - My love keeps growing - Fontana UK Demo £50 ......SOLD Neeon - Tripp me out - Artx £70 Youngblood Smith - You can split - Verve £230 Robert Harris & The U.R.S. Band - Funk on - Funkshun £350 ......SOLD Three Phase Evolution - If only you would say - Jump Street £35 Plus a bunch more, full description and sound files on the site www.topdogrecords.co.uk Thanks for looking Dave & Malayka

------------ Out In 2 Weeks, Richard A. Brooks (Brooks Brothers) ---------- Richard A. Brookes was born and raised in Chattanooga, Tennessee. While attending The Howard High School he formed a vocal group known as the Pleasures this was a short lived affair with Richard later joining his brother Arthur’s group ‘The Four Roosters And A Chick’ (later becoming just ‘The Roosters’). Both Richard and Arthur came to the same conclusion that they stood a greater chance of success if they moved north so with fellow Chattnoogan Sam Gooden they migrated north relocating to Chicago. Upon their arrival in the Windy City they enrolled at the Washburn High School where they first met Jerry Butler and Curtis Mayfield. In 1957 with the addition of Butler and Mayfield they recorded the Richard Brooks penned “For Your Precious Love” under the group name of “Jerry Butler And The Impressions” for the local Abner label. Due to the popularity of FYPL and the help of their manager Eddie Thomas (of Thomas Records fame) they signed up to the nationally distributed Vee-Jay label. Following Jerry Butler’s departure and further moderate releases Vee-Jay decided to drop them in 1961, only for ABC Paramount to sign them up. Securing a R&B hit with “Gypsy Woman”, but following their sixth ABC release ‘Sad, Sad Girl And A Boy’ in 1963 The Brooks Brothers suddenly left The Impressions. After briefly forming their own Impressions, Richard and Arthur then moved to Detroit where amongst other production projects they recorded the northern soul classic ‘Looking For A Woman’ as the ‘Brooks Brothers’, Tay (501). Tay being a subsidiary of the Detroit Sound label where Richard also composed The Sequins ‘Try My Love’ (503) a subsequent Detroit Sound release. Into the 70’s Richard pitched up at Nasco Records in Nashville as the lead singer of the group Bits And Pieces. For whom he wrote four excellent tracks, ‘Did I Scare You/Smoke Stream’ (Nasco 031) and ‘Sinner (Have You Been There)/Keep On Running Away’ (Nasco 033). In 2009 Richard in collaboration with blues man Oliver Johnson, (Albert King’s former band leader) formed their own production company. One of their most recent projects is Richards own CD project ‘I Am Back’ which has never really got past the promotional stage. Fate then intervened courtesy of Dave Thorley and Malayka Erpen. Malayka whose job involves making regular trips to Chattanooga struck up a friendship with a local taxi driver. Malakya’s enquires regarding any local soul artists he might know led to a meeting with the aforementioned Richard Brooks, with whom she discussed his performing career over a game of cards. As they parted company Richard pushed a CD into her hands which eventually arrived at Soul Junction HQ. It is from this CD that the Impressionesque ‘I’ll do Anything To Make You Happy’ and ‘With All My Heart’ have been taken for this excellent 45 release. hear it .......................https://youtu.be/hJEgFovbS6Q

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Last time I was in Chicago we DJ'd 2gether at Soul Togetherness USA weekender. Bob and Malayka were thick a thieves all night long, so when it comes to her turn to DJ, Bob hits the floor and danced to nearly all her set, Kevin Jones turn to me at one stage and said 'Now there's something you don't see every day', Bob in full flow a sight to be seen, will miss him !!!!!!!!!

Sadly yes, will post more when the guys in Chicago pass it on. Funeral details etc