Dave Thorley

Has anyone ever seen a issue of this, mine was a demo. Dave

I think Lew ends a fair few of his auctions early if their not going the way he likes, then they appear latter from him at a price he would like to see

Hi Sean First chapter of any sales manual. Dave

Someone asked me recently to price some records for sale, as I hadn't ever had some of them and others not for awhile I had a look at finishing prices on several auction site, and what other dealers had these for. When I presented him a spread sheet with a range of prices they had sold recently and a recommended price to get them to move on, he said I had way under priced many of them. So he took those back and did indeed sell them on this site for alot more than recent auctions. So whats my point, no one knows everything. Some people spend many hours trawling the web and record boxes so they can always get the lowest price, and spend hours on here complaining about every element of the scene.Some are very busy and want other people to source records for them to buy and will pay what they want to paySome do bothSome people go to the states to find stuff, go to shity places, have guns pointed at them to bring back those elusive tunes for everyone to enjoy.Some sit at home don't want to go to venues, listen to the politics, back biting, etc, just want to get the records they want and hear the music they love.All of the above do what they do and have a right to, it's there lives. No one person can ever be totally the arbiter of pricing.

This was either The Holidays-Without my sweet loving, that Chalky, Maria and I are playing or The Superlatives C/U which is now uncovered and is Chico, Barbara & Junior-Don't cry (Ain't I black enough for you)-Mel Records

Someone just sent me a PM asking if I thought this looked moody, here my reply to them. I have collected dubs for many years and they do come in all shapes an sizes, so to speak. 'No one seems to know much, seen original discs like that before. But also anyone doing a fake dub these days will put it on a 10" or 12" as they are easy to find nowdays, 45 blanks are very hard to find, so always a little more wary of 10" or 12" dubs' I have to also add that 12" and 10" dubs were used back in the day for single 45rpm cuttings, but were less common in the 60's, but become more prevelent in the 70's

If it was found in Chicago, why is it up for sale in N.Y., or is this another copy

You must have sat there for days thinking, why hasn't anyone one else talked about this on here. Cuz they all want to bid on it and were hoping the record kept a low profile. Crackin' tune though Dave

So were is Jelly reduced???????????

Someone asked about trades, will always concider this on any item.

Sounds about right to me Rod, How you doing dear boy. I know your not one for lots of plaudits, but you and the Bearded One turn up some great stuff over the years, Have a happy Christmas. Dave

It's simple, we got a small handful, we could try and sting everyone for a high price or we can pass our little windfall onto everyone else. While they sit on the selves they are just money tied up, not into ego and big tunes at high prices, just supply people what they want at a fair price. Dave

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From what I can remember talking to Richard 'Going to a happening' came first. 'Space land' was just the re-use of a great backing track. The whole project was however somewhat doomed when Tony decided to go and work with Don Davis and the Dramatics. Richard always felt he was left a liitle in the lurch and just shelved the whole thing and it just sat on his shelves until John Anderson heard them in the mid 70's. Detroit then was split a little into different camps and Richard saw Don as a rival. Tony was very ambitious and grabbed the chance to work with the group, but he did have a habbit of rubbing people up the wrong way, ending up with someone taking the ultimate revenge, Tony was shot coming out of a studio late one nite. Richard always said that there was even more stuff from these sessions, but he had mis-laid the tapes. Now with his passing they maybe lost for ever. I have spoken to his daughter to see if they can be found.

But Albert you have this, weren't you trying to sell one

Two plus Two-'I'm Sure' b/w 'Look Around'-Velgo, heard this a couple of years ago when Butch bought it, but heard a great deal more this year with Arthur having a copy as well Houston Outlaws-Save the world-C/U, a few turn up this year, the dancefloor goes crazy for this in Europe Peaches-Counts-Shrine, Heard Marc Forrest play this off the original studio disc he has, had them rockin in Germany Last Generation-Just a chance in life-Last Generation, A few copies have turn up now from the label owner, one of the best modern soul new finds of the last few years

Gonna be up for 'Taste Of Honey' you going ?

But best this week has to be the Rightous Brothers at $900

Crazy price, but one of his very best soul sides

Hi All Anyone got any more info on The Alcon Shades other than the little snippet on the Kent/Blue Rock CD Where from, line up, producer, any other releases etc. Thanks Dave

As you say Steve always happen when it's a disc you really want. How are you young man and hows business ?. Dave

I think he maybe refering to the who discovered what tread. Clearly believes that the record should have laid in obscurity and to this day we would not know the names of many of these great artists, producers and arrangers he so clearly cares so much about.

Miss him so, such a nice guy. Dave

As Steve said back then a record could have two completely different lives in two parts of the country. I used to go to this furniture shop by the collage in Swindon, the guy always had some interesting 45's, as I said before found MM & The Peanuts & Purple Mundi there, most of what he had was southern, also found a Barbara West-Congratulations baby. On my way home I poped in to see Steve Snook who lived in Cirencester, played him my new find and he asked if he could borrow it to play it a some local do a few days later and would give it back to me next weekend at Yate. Come next weekend he turns up with it already covered up as Lynn Vanardo, 'That's what you should play it as'. But back to my point about two lives, that same day I found a copy of Ronda Davis - Do you remember, decided to cover it up as Ann Sexton - Oh boy. Played it for a year there until Clarkie found another copy. Now many years later I am reciting this story and Rod Shard chips in you didn't discover that, it had already been played in the north west a few yaers earlier un-covered. Strangley no one a Yate worked out what it was for nearly a year.

This thread got me thinking about some of the Stafford things, By the early 80's it often wasn't so much about discovering things, but trying to find a copy of very rare know 45's that hadn't seen any or little turntable action. Like Fantasions-G.I. Joe, one saturday Ady Pountain and I set off early for Stafford so we could meet up with Kev Roberts in some pub near Stone I think, as he had 2 copies of The Charades on Harlem Hit Perade for sale. Over a few drinks the conversation moved to super rare records and he mentioned another record with a patriotic feel to it along the line of The Charades, G.I. Joe. He said he thought Martin Copple had a copy, so the following week I gave Martin a ring, he said he had it but wouldn't part with it as he thought he had one of only 2 know copies, so I all but gave up on it. But then a few months latter a guy turns up at Stafford with a copy in his sales box for lttle more than a £100, took me a second and it was mine. Larry Wright-Sweet, sweet kisses. Again well know to Detroit collectors as a very rare record, tried for so long to get a copy, but with no luck. Then Chris King rang me up and asked if I would like to have Popcorn Wylie on at Stafford, said yest straight away, also asked if Chris could ask him if he still had a copy of the record. Richard had a rumage around at home and found three. He brought them over to Stafford, I had one, Chis had one and I think Clarkie had the other, hit the deskd that very same night. One I did find from the get go was Willie & The Mighty Magnificents-Check it baby. Was djing at a Buzzard alldays and Ian Stewart was selling the very last remains of the Simon Sussan collection first brought into the counrty by Colin B a few years before. After having a route through saw the record, now I was already playing a Intrumental by them 'Soulin' covered up as The Frankie Croker Band-Danger Zone, so thought at £15 i'll take a chance. Got it home loved it and after a fewe plays decided to cover it up as Willie Kendricks, mainly because there is a line in it that say 'you better change your ways' took it to Stafford and within a few months it was a floor packer. One Ady and I discovered, only to find that same night it had already been discovered by someone else was Johnny Rogers. Many saturday afternoons would be spent at Ady's house, at the time he was the only guy I knew that had a real record room. I would take up new finds of mine and ask for his opion and he would play me some of his. He played me Johnny Rogers, fell in love with it there and then a begged him to sell it to me, which he did. Got up to Stafford with it in my box ready to play, Pat would go on before me and bugger me if he doesn't play the record covered up. So I run up to the stage and say 'I know what this is, no you don't it's a one off from John Anderson, it's Johnny Rogers' I said 'and i have one in my box, was going to play it', he was not happy think he had paid John a kings ransom for it.