Dave Thorley

There have been a few go through Ebay of late, all (I think) the same seller in NOLA. I've got one, looks to new and has a beveled edge to the pressing, I don't think the issues had this, but it's a long time since I had one. Dave

You should do it Dave, it would definativly add to the current body of knowledge and I'm sure if done with your usual passion, a great read. Dave

Neil Don't take it to heart, people like you and Gilly, John Anderson etc (the list is a long one) were pioneers. Going out there, tracking down these guys and also trying to give them a fair shake along the way. Their are many others that seem to lurk in the shadows grabbing a little reflected fame along the way. Is John Smith one of these, not my place to say. Those that put themselves forward as 'Experts' seem to fall into two camps. Those that produce new and original information with a driving passion for the subject they are involved in. Less for fames sake, but a desire to have history recorded. Then the others, that read, research other peoples work, then put forward information based on a rehash of what has gone before, with their own personnal comment. Always focused on the self promotion of themselves as much as the subject they write on. The internet has made the second groups life very easy. They publish often in a forum or context (The land of the blind man) where the 'One eyed man is king'. But in true reality their contribution to the known body of knowledge on a subject is small and over time history records that. Love you lots, hope all is well Dave

I'm not always as enamored at times with the UK nighter scene as you Mark, but I do have to say that a few years back when everything went tips up, it was the the soul scene here and in europe that litterally saved my life. So I do know where your coming from, peoples capacity to take on a troubled soul and help them through is amazing. I have said thanks to many since, but many more that were kind to me I can't remember as I was in such a mess. So to one and all of you thanks. Dave

with the current interest in High Voltage and World Column, why not 8th Ave Band. Played it out a few time lately and each time to happy smile faces of peeps remembering back in the day, and it got a full dance floor. Love it still, funky, infectious, madness. Dave

PM'd you

This was discussed at lenght a few years ago on here, someone might be able to find the thread Cheers Dave

Hi All www.topdogrecords.co.uk Shed load of new stuff just gone up, nice 45's, modern, northern, funk and gospel. Some real hard to find LP's and some killer 12". Lots of sound files, something there for everyone pricewise. 45's - Douglas & Lonero, Alvarez, Tate, Skip Jackson, Ray Crumley, Mongo Santamaria, Charmaines (Red Label), Chaumonts, David Nevin and many more....LP's - Barinno Brothers, Colorblind, Edna Wright, Funk Inc, Hearts Of Stone, Lenis Guess, Luther, Glass House, Fantastic Four12" - Bobby O'Jay, Gean Floyd, J's, W.T. Williams, Roger Hatcher, Circle City Band Hope you find something you like Cheers

Had this conversation with a well known DJ recently and he looked at me shocked. 'but if I didn't do those events, where would I get the money to buy the rare records to play at the better events', was his reply. On the other hand we have another popular DJ that very rarely takes soul night booking. Be going along to see one of his rare soul nite sets tonight;)

I agree, when you listen to the Forth Day version the production values (for those that care about these things) are so much better and the lead singer just sounds at one with the backing track. I think some of it's stems way back to the early 80's when John Anderson first brought these over from the states. Richard Searling was the first to get them and he played all version (Except Clyde Milton) out and on his radio show. Richard pushed the Emanuel Laskey version most in those first few weeks, saying he thought it best and when Richard spoke back then, many listened. As for the Clyde Milton, this was almost unknown until the early 90's. Dave

Why so supprised, they were all pressed by Dennis Talley (DT records) in simular amounts. How do I know, I knew Dennis very well up until his death a few years back and we talked often about his label. For some reason this has always been the un-loved version, I think it's one of the best, where as the Manificents version I feel is the worst and sells for more.

Heavens forbid, but bid hyping by the buyer and a few mates, maybe.

I thought you were cross dressing long before that:D Dave

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As Seb said two different mixes on De-To, without strings first mix (for some the more desirable) £150-£175 With strings £100-£150 Morning Glory version Re-recorded by Dee about 10 years later, Synth style modern soul £10-£15 First two very nice and worth picking up now, as they never pressed that many and it will only get harder to find. Later Morning Glory version an aquired taste, but popular with the French boogie collectors. Dave

There you go Steve, we clearly are out of fashion:D

Often the problem has been that the promoters really don't get/understand or sometimes like modern (what ever it's form). But run them as a gesture to a few or because they think it's more money in their pockets. Without conviction from the promoter it will never work. It worked so well at Bretby because I (the promoter) believed in it and was aware which DJ's to work with me on it. Modern being play in the main room at Stafford worked, again because I believed in it and I had some dj's that could play both 60's and modern. Rob, Sam isn't the only one that can do that I see many dj's with the knowledge and ability, Ady Pountain, Lars Bulnhiem, Gavin Page, Bob Cosby, Steve Plumb and I do at the right venue.But of cause were not 'In DJ's' Plus any of the Spannish DJ's do this every time they play.

Hi Tony Oldies allnighters are fine and have their place and many people don't won't to listen to things they don't know, fine again. It's the guys that run around shouting the odds about new stuff, lack of it, what does everyone think of this track i've just found, etc etc. Then don't support events/rooms that are provided for just that. Maybe in some cases it because they weren't booked to do that event or room and they only want to hear their new records, thats not to say all of them are dj's.

It's not just a remark about this event, it's a more general one. I just find it a little amusing to see these folks out at many venues and for all their bluster on here or in direct conversation. They really don't walk the talk. Venues big or small, I supose they think it's hip or cool to say this or that, but in reality don't really believe it. It don't want to bring anyone kicking and screaming anywhere, it's just the actions of those that claim to be big fans of new records or say they want to hear some that I find odd and not supporting it where it's provided.

Just a small oberservation, was at the Gloucester allniter at the weekend. Saw more than 20 folks that regularly come on here bleating about wanting to hear freash new music, something different etc, etc, etc So where did they spend the whole night, in the the other room listening to the same records they've heard a thousand times before, why?

Hi Andy Don't know, but I am in touch with his family. As you may well know he died some time ago, but his wife and daughter are more than happy to talk about his life and recordings. Several of the early Falcons line up (Pre) Pickett and co are still alive and living in Detroit. Cheers Dave PS, seem to remember there was a fair bit about his career somewhere on Soulful Detroit

No, it was a studio disc, spoke to Richard yesterday, but he can't remember where it went. So the search continues. Thanks for everyones feed back for far.

PS, I do also get the feeling that there were some guys over here that did not feel a 100% about the originality of these and chose to stay silent. In a scene as small as ours is, this is not a good thing. As i said before, we all make mistakes, but staying silent when such large amounts are involved is tantamount to collusion.

I have dealt with you in the past and we know many of the same people in the states, everyone says your a stand up guy. The problem was that in the very beginning you put yourself forward as the expert to authenticate the one you were sent. On an item as important as this and exspensive you need to be 110% sure, any misgiving then you need to shout them load and clear. There are lots of guys over here that you know that could of given you more support on this item. You said you knew it was not the same as the pink 70's boot, but that not good enough, if you had never seen an original, then how could you confirm it to be so. We all get caught out from time to time on things we sell, but authenticating avery rare record, so to start a chain that leads to a sale is a another thing. By confirming that you thought it was original, people then do take your word, as a well know and respected U.S. dealer, and make a purchase based on that. Dave

Good job Chalky, he still has an amazing voice, like others it will be nice to hear his new material. Cheers Dave