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Martha God bless her lost her voice 50 years ago

What a load of cobblers, ML

After reading this thread, and I had to lay a bet on if Chris Jackson was real I would bet that he was ML

Good News for a change hope it’s a success and we can maybe have a few promotions there, Tony,s is a little gem that needs some tlc to get it established again ML

Hi Magpie When Godin was encouraging spread the faith, that was then when NS was bursting through as a Musical force on the back of the 1960,s Soul and RnB scene, it had not at that time evolved to the Scene that probably hit its heights, and this is subjective around the late 1980,s and early 90,s it then in some cases fracture, became watered down , diluted and a caricature of its former self, not for everybody, but to people coming in to the NS at that time they would have had maybe a different outlook than a lot of us on here and it obviously doesn’t and wouldn’t reach the heights we experienced in our time , So Godin and everybody else didn’t really know where NS would end up in 2024, I can only take a guess that Godin would have been in agreement with a lot of the reaction to the way NS has made its journey. PS,for All promoters switch off most off the lights in your venue, keep all doors closed and turn up the volume on the music, it’s simple and it works. KR ML

As if you could get a 2 course meal and don’t forget the Black Forest Gateau down after a gram of the best, It just goes to show some of these promoters haven’t got a clue, LOL, ML

Birds of a feather stick together and find one another just like we do on this site, they are happy with a diluted version of what we term original full on NS, it lacks the atmosphere, the risky feel , the friendship, the chemicals, the effort that we crave for, To us and I mean the majority of the answers on this thread this would never ever be enough to replace anything like what we have experienced, Maybe it is enough for the people who touched on the Scene years ago who were never really into it except superficially and a new crowd who are just dipping into what they term there idea of NS, Who knows they might get a bit ambitious one day and daring take some grade A speed and turn all the lights of at one of concerts and awake a depth of soul music they didn’t know was there LOL, I doubt it of course, I’ve said it before and I will say it again there are more of them than us, and they are never going to change no matter what we do, For those who love the real thing carry on loving it and enjoying in the best way you can it’s your thing and nobody can ever take that joy and experience you have had with NS, let them go to their concerts it’s their thing, I know which I would rather do. keep on Keeping on ML

In this world everything comes of the back of something else , Wars come of the back of other and earlier wars, Music is no different, these concerts playing NS are a bi product of a 60 year old Soul scene which is full of great and forgotten artists, full of characters who embraced the music and scene over all those years, who will never be satisfied with bi products , I’m one of them, because we did it for real, So the best option to me anyway is except it that is enough for some people but will never be enough for us, by a long shot, Once you’ve eaten and tasted the best it’s hard being satisfied with a bowl of soup. ML

Far to many to mention, but my favourite recordings were all done and my favourite Soul artists between 1962 till 1974 there are exceptions that came later to my ears only , I understand that’s only my choice, good Soul in its own time but to me never reaching those heights that the music reached and touched pre 1974, ML

Great artist with a fantastic pedigree, and a Great voice, Another Legend gone forever but will never ever be forgotten R I P Tony

Hi Ken I’m 73 this year, was visiting clubs from the age of 12 started going to all-nighters at the age of 13 every weekend , led a life in clubland all my life dancing Dj,ing was a Security boss for over 40 years, listened to music all my life, Mc,d at all major illegal and legal raves, seen and looked after some of the biggest acts in the world, met most of the American Soul acts that visited here from the early 1970,s had Steak n chips for supper with Jimmy Ruffin , had a Guinness with Ben E King, eg eg, could go on forever, I’m not boasting just telling it like it is, let’s just agree to disagree it makes life simple, and gives me time to have another adventure. Have a great day ML

Hi Happy Feet Lets not get Technical, it’s childish and demeaning , I said RnB and Soul before it was termed NS , if it had stayed that way it wouldn’t have bothered me in the slightest the music would have been the same and I would like most others would have enjoyed it, NS is just an Umbrella brand given to the music we love where it starts and where it ends is anyone’s guess , I know my perimeters do you, ? Have a great weekend ML

I didn’t say NS existed I said the music was to become NS existed, I heard most of it first time around from 1963 onwards most of the NS in the early 1970,s were re issues from the mid 1960,s most of it had been played at clubs like the wheel Manchester, and Room at the top Wigan and other similar venues around the country along with Club Soul, when you were listening to it in 1975 a lot of us had already heard it nine or ten years before, because we are older than you . If the music already existed somebody put a stamp on it and called it NS otherwise it would just be Soul and RnB which it was when I first got interested TBH I’m not really interested in what you agree, I’ve been around too long for that nonsense I just know what’s true and that’s good enough for me Mick L

It’s one step down from saying I’m the one, in all honesty I don’t know these people from Bristol, have never heard their sets or taste in NS, But they have to realise that the Music is the Common denominator , Ego,s and being opinionated don’t sit well with the Good folk on here, We’ve played a lot of tunes and heard a lot of tunes between us and are not easily fooled especially when we’ve been there and done it countless times know when things are genuine or not, most of the time anyway LoL, Mick L

That’s the one,

No it’s Bristol this week ML

There was loads of music from 1963.onwards that could be classed as NS the term NS only came in approx 1970 but the music already existed and soul music lovers were dancing to it , trust me I seen it, We in this country put our own stamp on it as in Germany and Belgium to a degree, To say Americans didn’t go to venues in groups of people is a sweeping statement there are 350, 000000 people in America 50 states each one like separate country with major cities in each , ie, Detroit , Chicago New York , New Orleans eg each with its own stamp on Soul Music each with Ballrooms, Cellars, Night clubs , underground clubs which hosted many Major Soul Acts, and Soul Acts that were only famous maybe in their home state they would have.had DJ,s playing in between the acts Soul music and RnB as seen on the flyers Roburt posts on here they were in fact probably 5 years before us with the music, Because you didn’t see the scene in the USA and it happened before your time doesn’t mean it didn’t excist, I’ve been to Soul venues and shows in America and they are well attented, We didn’t invent NS in Britain what we did do was put our stamp on it which can only be a good thing. Trust me they had the right chemicals there too, I did a post a couple of years ago about how in Germany they had a thriving Soul and popcorn scene running all nighters, Somebody posted they only had drink there to get high, I explained that the Germans have always had the strongest speed for the last 100 years the German Blitzcreig was fought on it every German soldier sailor , and Luftwaffe pilot was given it , one of the reasons they were winning all the battles at the beginning of the war,So if you could fight on it you could certainly dance Mick L

When I would start even giving these influencers the time of the day is when they could tell me they have been too a 1000 all nighters around 2000 Soul nights and all dayers all over the country, Had over 20 years of getting out of a bed on a Friday morning and not getting back in it till Monday night, Dj,ing and dancing , having a great time with a little help from our friend, helping your mates when their having a downer, making sure their safe etc and carrying on regardless, knowing at least the history of some of the artists that you love to listen too and still carry on with your employment and everyday life, then I might listen, as regards White British stealing black music and claiming it for our own I’m with Chalky on this We along with to a lesser degree European countries kept it going and saved it from being forgotten, That music was recorded for everyone to enjoy on this planet, Do you think for one minute? That those artists who recorded the tunes we love would not be pleased we are listening to them buying them and dancing in to them, I’m sure they would. And just because we had our scene here , there still was a scene going on , maybe a slightly different concept in the USA, I remember being in LA 46 years ago and live bands playing some our favourites n various bars, The Soul scene has been alive now following RnB for over 60 years It’s a very complex scene and way of life yet it is simple in that it is good music good people having a good time 3 ingredients add a little chemical magic and you have a cracking recipe never fails because there are no ego,s involved, It doesn’t really matter what Scene it is there will always be the pretenders watching from the sidelines waiting to reflect on the success and inflate their ego,s in some shape or form and financially if possible.im sure there are to many old Souls on here to be fooled by this influencer nonsense. Mick L