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It wouldn't have mattered if the term Northern Soul hadn't come about .Soul music, and RNB, and Motown music were bigger than any label you could give it, The term NS is just acting as a umbrella in most cases for the diversity at the time for dance floor soul, There was in fact as a result of the NS umbrella something for nearly everybody who liked soul music in one form or another, wether you were a lightweight or heavyweight on the scene, Some people stayed lightweight some became heavyweight SOULIES and some were heavyweight right from the start ML

Yes on the same bill there were the likes of Family, Riders of the purple Sage, Donovon, Sha nan a, Captain Beefheart, who was excellent, but Dr John was different he came on about 3am in the morning a magic set I was on Security there so I was right up close to the stage Mick L,

Yes I was at the London zRock n Roll show at Wembley it was a great day out from early Sat morning till late Sat evening never been a bigger line up top artists before or since a peace of history if you remember was it Emperor Roscoe or tony the Prince who MC,d ? I remember Mick Jagger and Keith Richards at the side of the stage from tea time upwards I got there early morning and was positioned right in front of the stage ML

Best Rock n Roll and RNB live acts I've seen where Little Richard back in 1972 what a tight band and with his vocals something else, Jerry Lee Lewis same year took some following, Bo Didley in 72 London and on magic mountain California 78 Chuck Berry at the Cavern early 1967 to a intimate audience and in front of thousands a few years later in London Dr John and the night trippers with their voodoo set stood out at a a all star line up including Grateful dead, back in early sixties i was one of the security bosses in charge of Michael Jackson,s Bad tour in charge of Mixing tour and front of stage and though not a fan of Michael,s music credit where it's due he had 150000 audience loving him The List could go on forever different acts at different times in your life seeing them live as different and powerful feelings great memories ML

Bobby Womack and his family band did a cracking show at the Manchester Apollo back in 83 or 84, Edwin Starr never let you down he always gave it his best where ever he played, Arthur Conley in 1972 at Wigan was a good show,, the Temptations and Four Tops in various line ups since early 70,s have always been consistent and good they both did an exceptional performance in Brighton around 15 years ago, Getting back to Edwin back in 1988 I asked him in the dressing room in Maxims would he sing I have faith in you Baby he asked do you think they would really like that? I replied I'm sur they would he sang it in his set and got a terrific reception, Great Memories from Great Artists that will last forever ML

Ben E King with his band circa March 1972 Empress Ballroom Wigan Casino only around 200 Audience hit every note with full emotion still in his Prime, couldn't fault him ML

When I started loving soul music in 1963 64 it was simply called soul music and the clubs where it was played soul clubs, ,simple as that, Otis and Wilson P owned the dance floors in the mid 60's ML

A little story about Tony,s what only a few people know a few years in it was visited by Health and Safety who advised the family who owned it that it was too dark and advised that they get a big white bulb diractly over the dance floor , that bulb had to go it was stealing people's happiness the problem was it was about 15 feet in the air, I Solved the problem . The next Allniter I got there early equipped with a 22 air pistol first record in on first spot before anyone started dancing I shot it second shot the glass shattered over the dance floor I told the owners that it just shattered and it was lucky there was nobody dancing or they could have been seriously hurt they never replaced it and we got the atmosphere back and that bad white bulb bit the dust ML

Blackburn Tony,s fulfilled at the time from 1991 a regular monthly Allniter when there were few and far between, Bradford was winding down at that time, Tony,s did its best to give people a regular venue where you could the feel of a dark atmospheric soul club, it kept going through some highs and lows and eventually found its own identity and became a firm favourite with its own crowd but always welcoming to new visitors, it always had an across the board play list from numerous DJ,s established and up and coming to make things a little different and was always a safe and friendly environment , a lot of people had great times there with memories that last for a lifetime Great Memories ML

In the years 71 and 72 the following acts performed live at the Casino, Fantastics , Edwin Starr, Arthur Conley, William Bell, Johny Johnson and the Bandwagon, Lou Christie, Ben E King and his band, Jimmy Ruffin , some of these acts performed 3 or 4 times thet were on a the northern circuit at the time and performed at Bolton Casino , Leigh Garrik, talk of the town Eccles, Blighty,s at Farnworth, in the same years Regards ML

Middle of a spot at an allnighter playing full on NS and RNB getting a good response I was asked to play Michael Jackson Beat It, I said Beat It, they said Yes Beat it, I replied no Beat it of this effing stage, there are to many to mention ML

Hi Stuart That Ann Perry find is a good little Rn B number well done Mick L

I'm sure you would LoL,

Yes Russell Great minds think alike , try reading all the rest of what I wrote did you say that too? Have a great day ML

It's a hybrid of what came before with maybe not all the time feeling the music that was done before with Rock n Roll and And RNB people felt those same emotions and danced accordingly to it, there's a hell of a lot of NS dancers great at gymnastics but not so good at feeling the music and there's a hell of a lot of NS dancers not good at Gymnastics what can feel the music, what you feel on the dancefloor you can express with your movement not a preplanned Olympic event I for one can spot someone going through a routine and somebody feelin it, you cant analyse a feeling you just go with it if it feels right I've been dancing all my life, if I couldn't feel it I wouldn't do it simple as that it's freestyle dancing to your own emotions to the music you love if you wanted to generalise but it's much more than that to the person feelin it and moving to it but to think that'its completely original is being in denial of what came before and anybody who knows about music knows that lots of things came before and made that evolution into the term NS dancing, I'm saying all this before some Boffin of Ballyhoo decides that it was them or some prima Donna they worship invented it , NS dancing came from the evolution of RNB Rock n Roll dancing plus all the many dance styles of the early sixties simple as or as complicated as that ML

In thousands of clubs and ballrooms all over America and the U.K. In the 1950's and 60's doing backflips spins, shuffling to up tempo RNB and Rock n Roll, My first memory is being 7years old in Butlins Phwelli Ballroom 1958 staying up late because the last hour was Rock n Roll and being amazed watching the dancing,Take a look at the Flamingoes in 1958 Tommy Hunt included dancing to Jump baby Jump, or any old Jackie Wilson tapes if the music and the tempo is right you can do very similar moves to NS, and that is exactly what the dancers did then kind Regards ML

I was going to clubs in the Wigan area ect in 1965 onwards, Room at the Top being one of them and what is termed as NS dancing was going on then believe me I used to dance, before that as a kid I used to watch the lads and the odd girls do a hybrid NS dance to Rock n Roll it's been going on in some sort or another since 1953 not 1973, in the UK the teddy boys did their interpretation of it in the early 1950,s kind regards ML

The Casino resembled in 1975 the biggest youth club in the world enjoying theirselves , nothing wrong with that if you were in that age group, very few people over the age of 22 the majority were aged between 15 to 19 it was part of their youthful exuberance and their love of good music plus the help of a few chemicals that made many into the NS characters with a real taste of real NS later on until today, I called in the summer oof 75 and although only 23 felt like I was very grown up , not uncomfortable, just to grown up 10 years later that didn't matter because all thos kids were grown up, Everybody has to start somewhere and the Casino was that for them ! The Wheel however always seemed grown up, I worked over in GERMANY in the mid 70's and their was a great underground scene going on there incorporating Soul and what became later in the 1980's popcorn which felt right for me at the time a lot deeper less superficial and more grown up but the Casino at the time just like a lot of clubs around the country in a lot of different formulas was a rite of passage for the youth of the day as regards Soul Music it's called diversity as long as all roads lead th Rome ML

They've already been knocking here I've booked a bed and breakfast for the night ML

Either ask Mick Jagger or Keith Richard do they want to tell the story about Dave Godin or its just could have,would have, should have, or we will have Dave Godin inventing penicillin next, let's give it a rest ML

Everybody has to start somewhere, Jimmy Hendrix picked a lot of his showmanship from Little Richard when he was in his backing band although he was a great guitarist Jimmy had problems with being punctual Richard ran a tight band like James Brown and had to sack him Otis Reading picked a lot of his abundant talent from being in Richards band, So you can say everybody to a certain extent models themselves on who they admire till they find their own identity if they do, some never do . Rolling Stones did with their kind of Rock,and it made them ultra famous , it wasn't for me but good on them, What the Rolling Stones did do is bring to the attention of if you weren't a one off ,a great number of blues artists, and a belly full of RNB stars, There was no internet or world communication like their is now so they helped Stars in the USA get credited for what they had originally invented great music , in 1963 64 I was one of the only kids in my school who had heard of Solomon Burke , Irma Thomas , Athur Alexander, Valentinoes, Ike Turner Revue, all because of my interest in the Rolling Stones I looked behind the curtain and liked what I saw, the Stones really admired those artists and helped them in Britain and in some cases resurrected their careers in the USA they put their own stamp on Chuck Berry,s Come On, and the Valentinos it's all ove Now. Getting back to the subject of Mick Jagger and Dave Godin L oL, Mick Jagger is still alive and kicking making girls pregnant and everything else what famous people do and along with the rest of the stones who are still alive as nobody ever thought of asking him and the rest of the stones their take on the relationship I'm sure they would be big enough to tell you especially Keith Richard who is straight forward kind of guy kR Mick Lyons

The music that I love and have grown up with always as a relevance to me it's part of soul and who IAm today, I am also well read in books and life's experiences as regards myself having anger management issues I can assure you I don't in fact I made a good living for over 45 years sorting people out did, you do come across I'm afraid as passive aggressive, anyone who thinks somebody who wished peace and tranquility on them had anger issues must have underlying problems, It seems to me that your pretty much obsessed with millions of pounds I haven't got that problem, Not only have I been seeing acts since 1963 I was involved in the Night club industry for over 40 years actually looking after the artists security wise so if you have seen more live acts than me good on you but I very very much doubt it , I've also lived with the brothers , Danced with the brothers and been told by the brothers that I am a brother in the USA and other foreign climes but this article is about Mick Jagger and Dave Goddin not me and you LoL Take it easy and have a great day things might be better tomorrow kind Regards ML

The music that I love and have grown up with always as a relevance to me it's part of soul and who IAm today, I am also well read in books and life's experiences as regards myself having anger management issues I can assure you I don't in fact I made a good living for over 45 years sorting people out did, you do come across I'm afraid as passive aggressive, anyone who thinks somebody who wished peace and tranquility on them had anger issues must have underlying problems, It seems to me that your pretty much obsessed with millions of pounds I haven't got that problem, Not only have I been seeing acts since 1963 I was involved in the Night club industry for over 40 years actually looking after the artists security wise so if you have seen more live acts than me good on you but I very very much doubt it , I've also lived with the brothers , Danced with the brothers and been told by the brothers that I am a brother in the USA and other foreign climes but this article is about Mick Jagger and Dave Goddin not me and you LoL Take it easy and have a great day things might be better tomorrow kind Regards ML

I know they played live in the Empress Ballroom in what was to become The Casino in November 1963 they were special guests playing second billing to the Beat Boys a local wigan band I was there and they caused quite a stir ML PS in all honesty from a logical point of view I wouldn't think Dave Godin would have had that much influence on on Mick jagger,s thoughts on RNB at the time all the group were bang into RnBwith the exception of Charlie watts who preferred Jazz Leave Dave Godin with the glory of naming Northern Soul Leave Mick jagger to being a Rolling stone ML