Mark W

Boba, did the ladies know it had been released on Wand, any info on why it's so rare? That scan was the first time I'd seen confirmation of it's existance. Any idea how many copies known among collectors?

Very well, cheers Jock. I'm not suprised that a gentleman of culture such as yourself did not miss that this was on. Would really liked to have seen them myself. On an altogether different cultural note, I'll see you at Easter Road in the new season. Robbies on Leith Walk if you're thirsty before the game. Mark.

Was very impressed to see Ivories scan posted on SS recently by boba. What about Honeybees and Just Bros, heard rumours of their existance for years, anyone confirm? Scans?

I've got a similar very vague recollection, not of the actual song, but a scene of a bloke in a film sitting at a piano singing "When your feeling sad and lonely, let me render my service to you" to a woman. Remember thinking at the time that the New Wanderers record must have been a cover of a well known song, maybe a Bacharrach or something, for those lyrics to appear in a movie. Anyone know who wrote "Let me render my service"?

Someone got a bargain, I missed that auction end and was second, bugger! My issue has the same deadwax etching as mentioned and the label is exactly the same except blue with the "diamond" picture.

Mine is pressed off center a bit, as are all I've seen. Anyone got one thats perfect?

Bill Brandon in sellers "Other Items" is well worth a bid, 2 cracking sides.

It ain't the Urania Tommy Navarro version, (sounds nowt like him to me).

Interesting to see the different opinions on the way record collecting, and hence prices, will go in the future and the effect of the scene being international. Looking at the UK scene, I think the current collectors will never be replaced by new blood in anything like the numbers needed to sustain the prices in 15-20 years from now. Firstly I think the scene holds very little attraction to your average 18-25 year old so we are starting with numbers from a tiny pool of potential collectors. Take from that pool the number who fancy laying out 4-6 weeks wages on a record and the number shrinks again. Combine this with the fact very few of that age group have any spare cash and we are at a standstill, none of them could afford to. What do the papers say? Your average first time house buyer is now 30. When I bought most of my rarer records, from age 20 to about 28, I was out from under my folks feet, time served tradesman hammering in the overtime to feed my vinyl cravings. The flat I was in had a mortgage for 2 years wages, that same flat today would need a mortgage for 4 years tradesman's wages. And what significant other factor in all of this has rocketed in price outwith inflation since then??? The cash just ain't there anymore for the younger collector. At the other end of the scale there is bound to be belt tightening as older collectors start to retire, again the cash just won't be available as it was when they were working. I couldn't comment on the scenes in mainland Europe, but would make the observation that at the time I was travelling to Mexborough and Blackburn niters on a Saturday in a car with 3 or 4 mates, there were 2 coaches leaving a nearby pub where other mates of mine were among those travelling 2-3 hours accross Scotland to go to a House club. From what I was told at the time, very few collected House records then and they cost peanuts compared to Northern. Do busy clubs equate to a healthy/wealthy record collecting scene? I don't think there will be a crash but agree with the often repeated speculation that prices will slow significantly as more "rare" records flood the market as the older owners cash in or those who have inherrited them do. The records which I think will tumble are those along the lines of Jimmy Mack, Paris, Cecil Washington, etc which are in lots of collections but don't come up for sale all that often. Look what happens now when an auctioned record makes a good price, a few come out of the woodwork in hope of matching that price and very often don't get anywhere near. Example; Last year JM sells Mel Williams Burn Baby Burn for about £1800,the next week one goes on Ebay for about £850.If that can happen with a rare record like that, we can see the potential for price drops if less rare records were being offered on a regular basis. The comment earlier in the thread about the money being gone when spent on records was spot on, the record is bought and staying in the box, the cash is long gone. Like many others, I hope there is a price drop so I can mop up my wants list, but I think there is still a long wait ahead. Cheers, Mark.

Downtown Crowd a big record in Scotland for Colin Law mid eighties, he had a Quality release copy.

Remember Martin Koppel doing an article in Shades of Soul with a story saying how he saw a box with 100 's of cxopies in a Detroit warehouse. Think the story went that the warehouse owner had an idea of what he had and wanted a big price for each copy so Koppel left trhem. When he visited the warehouse again the owner claimed to have sold each copy to UK for top dollar which, as the article said, was obviously not true. Anyone got a copy of that article they could post, Derek Pearson maybe?

That was a good trade for us both, always good to see your records moved on to the right "hands"! Amazes me how you can consume, digest and re-produce rare records that way, some sort of VPI process?

Lenny, you mean under whelming... and you already know the answer the spotlite band question

I have a cut of the alternative version. It's not a 60's studio acetate, just a cut. Got it from Rob Marriot early 90's. Rob got it from Tim A who I believe had it cut from the mastertape.There were very few done at the time. This version is miles better than the one that came out on Benn-x. Far as I know it is unissued and no original acetae. Used to play this at niters early to mid 90's and I can say it was, for me, the best unknown tune I ever played. Judging by the reaction it got, seemed the dancefloor agreed. Was a bit of an anthem at our night in Edinburgh. On the flip of the acetate is "I can feel it" which is also very, very good. I was under the Impression at the time I got it that it was the west coast Inspirations of Charles Diamond, but, I'm sure I recently saw a track listing for a Kent CD of Philly material with this on it, although can't remember for sure..any more info ?? I_Can_feel_it.mp3 Gotta_find_a_new_love.mp3

Lyrics "keep me close to your heart " is quite a nice tune on JWJ

Cindy Malone "Try to understand" is an excellent midtempo number, worth buying blind IMO

There ya go.. Indeed a spin by Keb mid to late 80's. Wess_Oliver_Keep_The_Faith_.mp3

No problems with this guy for me either.

Ask him where all the copies of William Powell "Heartache Souveniers" are, then PM me so I can have one Would be interested to hear the story behind that classic record.

Thats the one Harry!

What was the story with Danny Moore turning up in quantity, who found them? When I drifted away from 'niters it was megabucks, then when I started buying records again it was everywhere. Remember Pete Lowrie playing it at our soul night in Edinburgh early 90's , me and my mates thought it was iconic to have it played in our club at the time. Still is an iconic record IMO, even if we all can have it.

Check out this link on the bay; https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/jerry-jackson-its-ro...1QQcmdZViewItem Check the sellers other items, they seemed like a good deal,so I was checking prices on Popsike and these pictures are on there. Now call me a cynic but why would you use pictures from Popsike, especially with WOL as on Jerry Jackson? Also, payment by Bank Transfer only?? If I'm wrong, apologies , but I smell a rodent. Anyone fancy taking a chance on these???

Deadwax would be handy, Ta.

As suspected by me, but as you say WTF do I know either? Confirmation any soul big brains