Back Street Blue

How you define RnB depends on the context in which you refer to it as suggested in Pete's post above. In my own dumb-arsed approach, to distinguish RnB from NS (in the narrower definition of what is RnB), I consider it to be RnB when the sound leans more to bluesy rock and roll than soul.....but as has been stated, many tunes fit into both categories. Very subjective at the end of the day.

That's got to be more like gospel than RnB surely.....

(for those who can't "see"...) bobby freeman - four piece funky nitty gritty junkie band melba moore - the magic touch

Effort.......I'll have some of that mate. Think these.... Duke & Leonard - just do the best you can Fred Hughes - baby boy Barbara Lynn - movin' on a groove ......are all in step with that list

Are they them right baggy ones with all the pockets 'n that? Price is reasonable and its great that you get a discount if you are unemployed

Before my time on here.........just read all 3 pages (got no work done for the last hour!!!) Loved it.........thanks for posting it. Especially liked post #96.........Swish's sample from his proposed book.........fantastic.........I'll buy a copy if he ever gets it published

Not for a f*cking gold clock!!! It always makes me wonder who builds these things and how they did it, e.g. did the ready mix driver charge them for standing time and then just dump the lot at the top of the cliffs for them to hand ball down in wheel barrows?

Started "hand bag" dancing at the junior nights at the Cats Whiskers in Oldham to Motown / Soul stuff that was coming out then in '72/3 ... remember Detroit Emeralds- feel the need, Temp's - law of the land, Johnny Taylor - who's making love etc. This was two-step type stuff that the girls taught us so we could join in with them. DJ's were Julias K Scragg & Mick The Fed. A little while later, some of the Older lads, Joey Haughton, Paul McKeever and Ian Galvin, started proper dancing, I assume they got the DJ's to play the odd record. They'd discovered the emerging "Scene" following the closure of the Wheel. They were all shit hot dancers and Joey was the acrobat. He was in the Navy and I think that he had met guys there who'd introduced him to the Torch and that's were these three had apparently learned the ropes. I was 13 and too young/skint to get a ticket from Hymes & Addisons in Manchester for a big niter that was coming up in Leeds with Major Lance, JJ Barnes and others in a cracking line up but my mates who were all a year or two older than me got them and went. From there on in the Pendulum became the place to be and shortly after that, Wigan. My dancing was styled on the older kids that I first saw at the Whiskers, followed by loads of bedroom practice before I had the courage to get on the floor there. The stuff I learned to was landslide, gonna find me somebody, too late, wade in the water, trampoline, end of our love......and of course the beloved Al Wilsons' the snake . The timings, dates may be a little muddled but that's roughly how I remember it.

genuinely never picked up on that..thought it was arty farty surealism my excuse is that the expression "wood" didn't have that interpretation in deepest Lancashire in those days

my favourite profound Beatles (don't know if it's penned by L&Mc or not)...lyrics are.... "isn't it good......Norwegian wood" !!!! ..........always hoped it had some hidden sexual meaning but if it doesn't....WTF ?

Just been listening to "mix it up" - the stridells.......................strange indeed! "I'm like a good old fashioned tapioca pudding.......your like a doughnut, a lip smackin' appetising doughnut!" .....food for thought ?

Great stuff thanks Kamau

heard about the floor there The floor at the Ritz was tremendous, as I'm sure you'll know, it was raised and bounced like mad and you'd always get someone stood at the side of it put their pint on the edge of the floor only to watch the glass bounce itself empty! Went to the dayer last September and was gutted to find that the old floor has sadly gone, place looks totally different inside now.

Never made it to the Palais unfortunately think I would have liked it though, going off Dave Tidswell's stuff. Goin' to his send off at Davy's on Friday by the way My memories of the Flasher range from masses of jellybeaners making pyramids on the dance-floor down stairs at the Mecca to the NS -v-Funk crews rivalry at the Ritz dayers. It went down well enough downstairs at Wigan too but drove a lot of grumpy old blokes muttering off into M's never to be seen again. As with the Bob Sinclair track under review, I'm not saying it was good or bad by the way, just commenting on the impact on the dance-floors.

So to sum up.......you've got a degree and you prefer not to store music on vinyl? I prefer my expurgated version and I'm minded of my late mother's words of wisdom "self praise is no recommendation"

Wish I did.....and the records to go in it! Down-sized to a 2 bedroom ex-council house following divorce and I'm lucky if I can find somewhere to hang my mankeeni when all three kids are staying here. Most of my modest record collection got trashed as part of the domestic upheaval and what I do have is either boxed up in the shed or attic, so I listen to cd's at home mostly. I reckon that if I did have one it would probably look like the picture Barry's posted in his thread "?" 28 March in freebasing

it's the flasher all over again

Good effort Mr McCartney Apparently, the Steinway was so badly damaged that it needed a new leg.....so they fashioned one out of an old prosthetic leg that "Paul" still had lying around the house

...............it's lookin' like the answer is option number 4 Pete ............... some folk don't think it's cool to own up to liking patches but they're the heraldic devices of our bygone age. I've still got a couple, lost the others, which I keep with some old photos and never stuck 'em on a bag or a vest If you go to a weekender or on line you can buy a repro' of pretty much any of the old original patches so makes you wonder how you will be able to tell which is original and which is a repro'..........you can see it now....."OPO policy applies" Reckon we'll have to rely on carbon dating or some other such technical wizardry to authenticate them in a bit

I think that what this thread has established is that, love it or hate it, the subject record fills the floor. You've seen it happen at an "oldies" event, and I saw it happen in the modern room at Prestatyn. Why it has this effect.....who knows....it could simply be that, if we put our preferences and prejudices aside, its a bit of uplifting dance music that seems to fit the bill for those who are simply out for a good time and regardless of what label has been hung around the music policy of the event in question....bit like the old house club vibe.

Yeah I get that idea Steve.......but my comment is aimed at the broader context of being progressive and having an open mind in that respect

Always makes me laugh that the top 500 likers are ridiculed on here by people lamenting the fact that later discoveries/rarities don't get played enough by DJ's "Let's have a more progressive scene"..............................but then anything that really is progressive (in terms of the way that dance music has evolved) gets slagged off as not really being soul. Eureka!!...............a new genre is born........"Prog Soul"

Tuuuuunnne!!.......

Been looking all over for it....think someone's borrowed it sorry....will let you know if/when it turns up

totally understand that view point......but forgetting the "baggage"......it has a certain atmosphere, its understated, its a bit bluesey and a bit jazzy.....and there's nothing like it out there.....added to the fact that the original wheel boys played it...if it was good enough for them...................to me it is a timeless classic......stuff the politics