Kev John

pete have you played both sides as the 1C side got the S before it ? ps are the matrix marks in the same places that i described on my first post ?

hi Dean just read your post i will give these directions about label LOgo @ 12 o'clock Augben BMI on right hand side turn that to 6 o'clock the 1168A in is the run out and if the F/W is in about 11o'clock position you could have an orig if not it's a boot just dug mine out hope it helps you

I had a Peterborough phoenix soul club sew on patch in mid 7ts

thanks for posting scans but if you look at my last post i'm asking for the matrix info in the run out of the boots

Matrix marks for disputed Cashing in are JSA 510A M11 ( Bell Sound Stamp ) (Sre joined letters like in letter writing ) S -5119 GOL All scribed in bar the bell sound stamp

thanks mick I wonder what the markings are on the Boot ?

mick its mono/mono labels the tracks are not 1B side is mono vocals are higher the S-1C side is different mix

I bought this record many years ago it's a white promo with mono labels both sides JM says it's a boot/reissue ? The info i'm giving is in the run out is as follows Logo @ 12 o'clock read left to right,REP -1185 RPN - 0024 -S -1C F/W L the f/w & L are @ 6 o'clock to the Logo Flip reads Logo @ 12 o'clock REP -1185 RPN - 0024 -1B F/W L these matrix marks read upside down if Logo is at 12 o'clock The F/W L marks are 12 o'clock All the run out details are scribed in no stamped in marks JM does not give any mention to matrix marks just vinyl and labels I have played this record with a graphic equalizer and there is 2 different mixes on it ,vinyl is high quality no pin holes in vinyl any info would be great Thanks Wigan Massive in the Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pete as the marks in run out are hand scribed in i would say you would be right on where logo would be @12 o'clock the scriber would turn the record do this as we know there's a small run of originals

how about a 1962 tune Nat king Cole - Who' the next in line great early 6ts soul

dave As the record in question the the label is paper moulded over vinyl all the marks are all in the same place the labels in the same position it just can't by hit and miss methods used by record plants

great both of us on same wave length

that's the number on record label @ 3 oclock not in run out ?

could there be a legit reissue then the boot which as got a lot of pin holes in the vinyl run out grooves?

not all original's had Frankford & Wayne stamped in run out's imo

that's about right and the vinyl is thinner than a normal record thats 4 copies @ mo

IT's not got any stamp in run out just F/W scribed not frankford & wayne stamp

no i'm not tryin to pick an argument with you but it was'nt answering my question sorry i have seen countless boots of this record and i have never seen this thin vinyl copy before so all i was doing was asking a genuine question

say JM what is meant by that comment ?

orig is high quality thin flexi vinyl with a F/W scribed in a certain position in run out I do have an orig copy of this

Does anybody know how many orig copies of this Mr M's biggie were there ?

Also on Sphere Sound 715

Lets me put the other view in how many top Dj's of todays scene speed up,slow down the Biggies? And how many play them at natural speed ?

Yes i agree with your statement but don't forget about the old vinyl record shops they recycle a lot of records for us These places are dying of great places to go to they got lights to see when some of us got bad eye sight!!!!

People i trust at venues and i've bought of in the past are Chris Anderton-Midas touch records Keith Williams-Soulsearcher records Des Parker-Soul inc Dave Welding Johnny Beggs Mace Tony Foster Craig Atkins Tony O Keith Minshull I have got a few bargains of these guy's in 10yrs or so Good Hunting atb soulghost