Kev John

Just been going through a few records & found an oddity 

Decisions 214 /Demo 

Vinyl press not styrene 

Its got a stick on label on vinyl press  not the usual  molded over label 

My playlists from Saurday night

1st set

Barbara Jean English - Comin' Or Goin'-Alithia

The Dymamic Superiors - Nobody's Gonna Change Me - Motown W/D Mono version

Harold Tyler - Reality - Tymo

We The People - Right Now - Lion

Bettye LaVette - You Made A Believer Out Of Me - Epic

The T.S.U. Toronadoes - Got To Get Through To You - Atlantic W/D

Oscar Perry - Can't Mend A Broken Heart (Same Old Thread ) - Mercury W/D mono

The New Silhouettes - We Belong Together - Jamie W/D

G.C. Cameron - "No Matter Where" - Motown

Puzzle - "You Make Me Happy" - Motown

Sound Experience - "Your Love Belongs To Me" - Philly Soulville W/D mono version

The Counts - Not Start All Over Again - Westbound W/D

2nd set

Cocolate Train - Crackerjack - Kam

Gamith - Darkness - JSJ

Rayfield Reid & The Supernaturals - Stick-Shift - JSJ

Manu Dibango - "Salt Pop-Corn" - Philips French 1st issue

Sons Of Zion - Standing In The Need of Prayer - Bileese

Bobby Lee Fears - Exodus - Forward promo 

Shirley Caeser - Stand The Storm - Hob Is Gospel alt mix

Johnny K - I'm Afraid Of The Dark - Drive

Benjamin & The Right Combination - Light Of My Life - Pametto,

My Final record of the night was......

Rita Lee - Salvation - Charay

16 hours ago, Woodbutcher said:

My guess would be that the first one of those was the first pressing/release on the label and the repress was done very shortly afterwards following a label design rethink/redesign to produce the much more 'in your face' label that was used in all subsequent releases on the label.

Especially as both have identical run-out markings suggesting the same stamper was used.

Sounds a very plausable insight 

The disc release is rarer than the Glasses logo according to discogs

So sales of 1st press may be low  

18 hours ago, Chalky said:

Records recorded and mastered at Virtue often used the date for the catalogue number, as do the Uplook releases.  Probable they were recorded and mastered at virtue, the metal work done at Tracy Val, pressed at Superior.....just a guess.

So Karl do you rekkon both variations of label where realeased in 1969  ?

Cuz that's my thinkin' on it 

5 minutes ago, Chalky said:

any sign of Virtue in the run out as the second press info on discogs suggests Virtue is in the run out.  TVC is the mastering company, they who made the stampers and who often used Superior Pressing plant located next door to them.

Virtue etched in both records Karl

Could UP LOOK pressed at different plants ?

With 2 variations of label set up !

1st press vinyl as imperfections 

2nd as a better quality of vinyl used

Also add this into the runout matrix  both records photo below

6 minutes ago, Thfcliam said:

No but I can say what a great record it is!

No you can't we all know it

Read the question on the thread

Posted 2 hours ago

https://www.discogs.com/master/785206-Charles-Mintz-Since-I-Found-You-Girl

1st Press Disc logo 1969

Re-Issue Glasses logo unknown 

Does anyone know the time scale between the presses ?

Both records have idendical marking in the runout but there's a differance where located in the runout

Your thoughts welcomed

Kev

28 minutes ago, Thfcliam said:

Great record

Not the answer i wanted sorry

https://www.discogs.com/master/785206-Charles-Mintz-Since-I-Found-You-Girl

1st Press Disc logo 1969

Re-Issue Glasses logo unknown 

Does anyone know the time scale between the presses ?

Both records have idendical marking in the runout but there's a differance where located in the runout

Your thoughts welcomed

Kev

3 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Pipped to the post .... 

https://www.discogs.com/label/1874488-Tracy-Val-Corporation/image/SW1hZ2U6MTAzMTI1MzM0?page=1

 

Thank you both for efforts 

Atb Kev

2 minutes ago, Alan T said:

From Discogs

https://www.discogs.com/label/1189798-Superior-Record-Pressing-Corp-Somerdale-NJ

Superior pressings are often found with a "TC", "TVC", "ATN" or "TVCA" etch in runouts, which signifies plating performed at Tracy-Val Corporation, a separately-owned electroforming company located adjacent to the Somerdale plant. Please credit according to instructions found in the profile.

Thanks Alan 

18 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

A clear image would be nice Kev.

Here you go Steve

Can someone help me to idenify an etched 3 letters in the run out 

They  are  T over V then C to the right hand side of the other letter 

TIA

Kev

59 minutes ago, Solidsoul said:

Well you asked for an opinion on the price.  It's not my fault you don't like it. As for the label I can't see the point of paying for a collectors record that doesn't look good. I mean you can play it all day long on youtube. And if you only want to play it and not bothered how it looks, a  Brunswick copy would do. 

1 mans opinion dosnt make it the right answer 

On collecting  it's not perfect but all crap on the label it's part of the history of the record the sticker u would never remove

On suggestion on value I just said you where I shy but shy not offended on the response gave 

Let's see if someone comes back I don't think I overpaid for this record £230 with postage in 2020 on discogs 

5 hours ago, Solidsoul said:

About a £100 to £150 with all that scribbled out label damage and one of those impossible to remove "Mr Chips" stickers.   

A mint copy £250 to £300.

Hi Toxsan copies are hard to find think you are a bit shy on both of your guestamates 

Plus you don't play the labels imho 

Just a link from here to help out not the bible but a more upto date on sales

https://www.discogs.com/release/4522873-Herb-Johnson-The-Impacts-Im-So-Glad-I-Found-You-

https://www.discogs.com/sell/history/4522873

Kev

Just wondering how much value would you put on this classic oldie

The actual record on this video 

NOW SOLD.........!

https://www.raresoul45s.co.uk/margaret-little/a/91818/

Was this record ever a C/U ?

TIA 

A thread from 2009 

gettin' closer

21 hours ago, Chalky said:

(Richard) Flowers the link is it male vocal?  Could be him on vocal? Haven't a sound file to compare..

Here ya go Karl 

Both sides in full.....!

Not much known on this obscure record

FLIP-DIP unusual name for the group or is it a group ?

FADA is a soul label

Linked to LA Xpressio Records

1970s soul label from Los Angeles, California,

https://www.discogs.com/release/6485851-Flip-Dip-Tomorrow.

Would like some input from any guy or gal in the know for this topic TIA

Rite got  the low down on the record  &

Mark  has not seen a copy in the wild in any collection  he couldn't say how many copies there are ,but said there can't be many around

Myself i only know of 2 copies the 1 i've got  & 1 JM had & i think he sold it on auction

Young Ladies was a good price not inflated imho 

I did have a copy once but moved on a few years ago for trades & cash 

United States Navy Port Authority Soul Band* – Together

Gamith – Don't Change Me / Darkness

Think these 2 tracks should go in the mix