Frankie Crocker

Perhaps not, but they seem to be enjoying the music just as much dancing to a wider range of sounds without having to break into a chemist's shop to get the party started...

A bit chicken or egg Byrney... The music came before the dance. The dance is in response to the music. Slower dance styles evolved as a natural reaction to mid-tempo and beat ballads. Once, most tunes were up-tempo and dance style was too, but different tunes eg 70's newies, spawned new dance moves - where the music leads, the dancers follow so nowadays, freestyle dancing is often the norm.

A music scene for those who like ultra good music. A soul scene for the chosen masses whether you listen to, and maybe dance to and possibly even collect the records. A Northern Soul scene for those who dress up, travel, go to Soul Nights, All Nighters and Weekenders to socialise, dance and live the life. Sure, dancing is an important facet of the scene but generally at a venue and usually in spells. Some are known to dance in the house or at work but this is not common: some venues nowadays have fewer dancers but maybe more listeners drinking, talking, smoking, thumbing through record boxes etc. It is only a dance oriented scene as the music is so soulful.

Strong VG, almost VG+ copy of this great tune. Plays near perfectly. Has small trace of erased writing on label but hardly noticeable. Price £200 includes postage packing, insurance and Special Delivery to UK address. Payment by PayPal via friends and family. PM to reserve or if there are any questions. Sold for £355 on Manship's auction a fortnight ago... Thanks for looking.

PM'd you. Mint unplayed copy here

Not really a term that was introduced but two catch phrases that have been around for decades. When you think about it, the records we like are all relative scarce, rare, holy grails and hens' teeth etc... Tape swappers back in the 80's compiled 'underplayed' tunes that they had stumbled on before others but this must have been happening since the invention of the cassette player. Rare soul is a term now being used more by progressive promoters who attempt to diversify the DJ line-up with RnB, Funk, Modern and anything else vaguely danceable... when the punters tire of this hotch-potch approach, maybe the scene will return to normal and play Northern oldies or Northern oldies, newies and rarities.

A few nice tunes reduced to clear. PM to reserve records or for further details. Price includes postage, packing and insurance to UK addresses. Payment by PayPal via Family and Friends. Thanks for looking. Del Reys-Rosalind/Mama Was Right-New Breed green label: VG++ @£200 Don Ray-Born A Loser-RCA DJ: VG, light ringwear @£90 SOLD Fashionetts-Baby It's You-Warren:Ex @£100

A few big reductions due to grade. PM me to reserve or for further details. Price includes postage, packing and insurance. Payment by PayPal f&f please. Thanks for looking. Anne Heywood-Crook His Little Finger-Hondo yellow label: VG+/VG-,slt wrp NAP, @£150 SOLD Bee Jays- I'll Find You-Prime: VG plays with a few pops @£110 SOLD Lada Edmund Jr-Tha La Rue-Decca DJ: VG, label faded, warp NAP and plays fine at 1.5 gms @£130 SOLD

Remember it well. An excellent take on the Casino at the time. Picked up a copy a few months ago on eBay - it was a joy to read. The Times was, and still is, the best paper on a Sunday bar none so it treated the topic with the reverence it deserved unlike contemporary commentators on the scene who peddle the freak-show/Frank Wilson/mad collectors/dance on the hands stuff that just doesn't wash with long term devotees.

I would guess that there is only a very specialist market for Doo Wop nowadays with a small number of completists in their 60's and 70's chasing one-offs and mint upgrades. There does not appear to be a market for low-end Doo Wop although these sounds are available in loads of record stores at minimal prices. On the other hand, the future of rare Northern looks to be fairly long term with plenty of young hipsters buying into an addiction that will occupy them for 50 years or more. Record players have made a comeback. Very little new music of note is being generated by an industry that has shrivelled up. All this suggests that rare Northern records should hold their value, even if small quantities are turned up by trackers of group members. The future of low end sounds is uncertain but youngsters could latch on to them in years ahead as they catch the collecting bug. Fifty years down the road, people of all ages are buying rare soul vinyl but that can't be said for Doo Wop.

Two here. I've PM'd you.

A few nice sounds reduced to clear. PM to reserve. Prices include postage, packing and insurance. Payment by Pay Pal via Family and Friends. Thanks for looking. Sunny and The Sunliners-If I Could See You Now-RPR:Ex/VG++ ringwear, WOL B side name written@£55 ON HOLD Determinations-Bing Bong-King:VG+ DH ringwear grime on label @£80 Sticks Herman-Give Me Your Love-Tic Toc: M- unplayed @£50 James Moore-Feet-Soft:M- a few scratch marks on label @£50 Darrells-So Tenderly-Lyco DJ: VG+ XOL some light marks @£50

A few choice oldies for sale at bargain prices. PM me to reserve records or for further details. Price includes postage, packing and insurance to UK addresses. Payment by Pay Pal via Family and Friends. Thanks for looking. Ray and Dave-Wrong, Wrong, Wrong-Mica: M- with slight WOL @ £100 Robert John-Raindrops, Love and Sunshine-A & M: M- @£75 Sherri Taylor- He's The One That Rings My Bell-Gloreco:VG- @£100 worn copy but plays fine SOLD Bill Griffin-Try To Run A Game On Me-Naptown:VG- @£65 plays with a few clicks Jimmy Beaumont-You Got Too Much Going For You-Bang WD: VG+ @£80 few light marks and edge nicks

There was an earlier post on this a year or so ago. Not been there since 2006 but there was place downtown and another in Victoria worth calling into if they are still there but don't expect to find much.

True Russ, and having largely ignored 60's soul for years, John has embraced the selling of rare Northern big-time. Top dealer, top bloke and long may he keep bringing his wares to market.

Bit of a rogue result but if you have the readies, it's your favourite record, top of the wants list and have missed out on a few lately, then you'll take a punt. The way the market is going at present, it makes sense to snap up something when you see it, especially if it is affordable.

Big, big difference between Modern and Crossover. The latter includes late 60's verging into early 70's with a blend of old/new instrumentation and loads of good dance tracks that are floor-fillers and a great wind-down after a string of up-tempo oldies.

Cheers Dave. Useful to know. Don't use Facebook but the link was informative. I've been in several pubs along the Mumbles Mile but not The Vic so I will check it out one Thursday.

Great set Dave. Who's actually putting the show on? Never come across any soul do's there even though I get there once or twice a year. For those not in the know, Swansea is worth a trip for a Joes ice cream alone.

A few three figure records at bargain prices. PM me to reserve. Price includes postage, packing and insurance. Payment by PayPal via Friends and Family. Thanks for looking. Jerry Ganey-Just A Fool-Verve DJ: Excellent @£85 Rayons-You Confuse Me Baby-Forte:Excellent, few marks on label @£65 Traits-Too Good To Be True-Pacemaker: Excellent @£75 Marvelle and The Blue Mats-Mellow Man-Dynamic Sound: Mint minus unplayed@£125 Gene Williams-Don't Let Your Love Fade Away-Forte: Red label, VG+ @£75

Great story, well done. I have lost count of the number of times I've bought and played copies only to be disappointed. Definitely a keeper.

A nice selection of classics and assorted oldies. Free postage to UK addresses. PM to reserve. Payment via PayPal friends and family. Thanks for looking. Ann Sexton-You've Been Gone Too Long-Seventy 7: VG++ light ring wear @£95 Embers-Watch Out Girl-MGM DJ: VG++ @£130 SOLD Bell Boys-I Don't Want To Lose You-Jamar: VG slight WOL traces erased @£175 Malibus-Gee Baby (I Love You)-Sure Shot: M- @£115 Dobie Grey-Honey You Can't Take It Back-White Whale DJ:VG++ @£75

Nice read. Thanks for posting. Wish I'd hung on to the sales lists from decades ago but they piled up to ridiculous quantities. Agree with you on the RCA label, particularly white demo copies that were generally pretty common and overpriced, and in the main, still are.

It's getting to be like the Olympics - there, you have so many cheating on drugs, it would make sense to have another Olympics for those who don't want to cheat. Roll on the day when there are two soul markets, one for the cheats and a proper one for OVO buyers. Why do we have to put up with these fakes polluting the sales pages?

Interesting that £50 is the going rate for the first few copies onto the market. Sure, it is highly collectable and demand will outstrip supply by a long way. For those attending, it's cost a lot to travel and get in, so nothing wrong in partially recouping the outlay. Not all soulies collect records so I think it's fine to sell an unwanted giveaway and blow the cash on whatever you want.