Frankie Crocker
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Good questions Dobber. Now there is copy on John Manship’s auction, others may be posing similar questions. For example, was there a free 45 in every LP sold? The free single may have been a marketing ploy to encourage buyers of the LP to give the 45 to a friend to prompt them to buy the album. Mass producing 45’s was an expensive business so I don’t see there being a few hundred sitting around unwanted when there was an album planned for release.
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Not sure sorry. I have not seen a bootleg. I have two copies of the record in question but with different B sides. I had a rough copy, then upgraded it a couple of years ago when a stash turned up; I then decided to keep both of them. It looks like there were two pressings of the record, possibly because one was messed up. I can’t lay my hands on the records right now to check the details but I would be surprised if someone had booted it.
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True, but a box turned up. Dealers took a few to sell on. Now that hoard has dried up, try finding a nice copy.
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Big spin by Butch in the late 90’s. I’ll be settling for the black-print second issue from now on though. Made its mark at the Casino too.
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Agreed Steve. Possibly the dullest auction list I’ve seen in a while. I hope Tim Brown did not see it. At least there were a couple of proper highlights in Rufus Wood and Roy Robert.
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Bidding war here. Record has featured in Wants Lists on Soul Source. Tug of war between US Tijuano soul and Northern collectors here. I thought about going for the copy last year but it was too pricey for the sales box. I reckon the Sheltons on Lance is staying in the USA.
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The days of NM and M- are over. Jason grades conservatively, but the stock is not what it used to be like in the beginning. Even G records are worth having if dead rare and can be cleaned up; better to have a rough copy than no copy at all says he pondering whetherWayne Champion on Invictus was a bargain?
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The new VAT imposition looks like a post-Brexit wheeze as eBay can no longer slush their funds offshore to Luxembourg. It looks like HMRC have done a deal with eBay which will suit both parties as the former will gain more tax and the latter can continue to avoid paying a higher level of corporation tax. I suspect that Customs duties will still be charged in the usual way until I hear to the contrary - I for one am not experimenting with this for the time being. As suggested on Soul-Source in a previous thread, buyers and sellers should unilaterally agree a low price eg 75cents, for every dirty, scratched, unwanted and uncared for 60’s soul record that crosses the Atlantic; ‘finders’ fees’ could be deducted from final auction prices resulting in low ticket declarations and zero Customs duty.
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Apologies...it should be Sir Richard anyway, and maybe it will be one day if he keeps playing his Ron Holden records.
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A nice selection of tracks including The Prophets, Jackie Wilson, Betty Swann and N F Porter. Richard shared his expertise of the Northern scene between tracks, coming across well as he always does. However, on the subject of the Casino, Dickie OBE skirted around the R topic, failing to mention him, and ignoring the invitation he took up to form the best Northern Soul partnership I can recall. Richard, I call upon you to give credit where it is due and move on...
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Good call. Adey Pierce has been in the business a very long time and has a decent selection. I should also add Sean Chapman’s website to the list. It’s worth mentioning these websites cost a lot to set up and maintain so I take my hat off to the dealers who have achieved this.
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Agreed, it is a strange sight of a site. The records are overpriced but some seem to sell. I think they are priced up to attract interest in the shop window. He has a high profile so I thought he should be flagged up.
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Fair point. Records are priced up using Manship Priceguide in many cases. Most records are for sale for two figures. The site is updated regularly. Most tunes have sound-clips. - this is a real advantage for browsers.There’s other types of soul besides Northern. Sure, there’s eBay and Discogs, but if you want a list that's been compiled by someone who knows the record business, this is a decent place to start. The vast majority of record stores and dealers in the States do not have a dedicated website.
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www.parkersrc.com is an excellent listing for Don Parkers Records and Comics in the USA as it has a variety of soul with sound clips. The best websites in the UK are run by John Manship, Tim Brown, Pat Brady, Steve Jeffries, Darren Brown and Henry Atkinson but there are plenty of others. Check the Soul-Source seller listings daily and you can’t go wrong - any week you choose, the range of offerings will be way better than eBay.
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Like Double Cookin’, Harlem Rumble, Frantic Escape...tracks that are so brilliant, they don’t even need a vocal.
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I would not want to put anyone off Northern Soul. There is an enormous wealth of brilliant, excellent, good and fair sounds so for most of the time, you can’t go wrong. There are a few tailor made Levine tracks that come to mind and some pop-chart tunes we now tend to overlook, but the one I would nominate is the Enchantments-I’m In Love With Your Daughter on Faro. This has an odd beat, is hard to dance to and is atypical of the genre. PS I really like the Peanut Duck, especially the quack quack bits, nutty Detroit...
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I’ve just been charged VAT based on postage costs and the price of a record. The dealer had difficulty switching to a US address so reluctantly I stumped up wasting $10 on the transaction. I think this is a real scam as postage charges relate to a service and not tangible goods.
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Thanks for posting as always. Magic stuff. Another mixed bag but some pleasing results here and there for John. British items seem to growing in stature - I wish they could go in a Friday auction so I would not wear out my eyeballs looking over them.
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Tippi Saunders ... what happened there ... ?
Frankie Crocker replied to Woodbutcher's topic in All About the SOUL
Really weird. A $200 record goes for ten times as much? I watched and put in one bid. The winner might be feeling pretty sick - maybe they will withdraw it? The underbidder might just have been shivving for a laugh. We know there’s a millionaire bidder out there who makes one bid only, and only on nice mint items - I suspect their usual bid is something like $3,000 or $5,000 which would guarantee winning pretty much everything. It could of course be another ‘dealer intercept’ who plans to press 300 copies at £20 a pop thereby making a tidy profit. I suppose anyone could put in a silly bid and spoil the auction by later withdrawing it. Some of the more prolific eBay buyers have dozens of withdrawn bids against by identity which hints at their MO. -
Without overthinking it, your average collector is someone who buys for a number of reasons but generally tends to keep and curate their collection. I would estimate that most collectors do not DJ regularly but plenty have done so on occasions. Many collectors sell or trade records - often to make space in a box or fund purchase of a want; as records occur in varying conditions, many collectors will upgrade the flawed ones when the opportunity arises. Your serious collector will clean the records, re-sleeve them, maybe file or shelve them in some sort of order or system, possibly list or catalogue them, and when time permits, even play a few... Collecting is a diverse field so there may not actually be a ‘typical’ collector. Sometimes, there comes a point when you just pick up what comes your way and end up as a ‘gatherer’ - stuff just piles up and up in odd boxes so it becomes hard to maintain the collection.
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Should fetch four figures. The few auctioned recently have been hotly contested. I reckon ‘I Got The Power’ on La Beat is a better record but it only sells for a fraction of the price.
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The next three Wednesdays promise to be very interesting. John’s copy of Earl Jackson has almost reached 1K in 24 hours. John has also put up a Bobby Garrett on Mirwood when RareSoul45’s has one for set sale at £300 - this begs the question, do you grab Steve Jeffries before John’s goes for silly money or ignore them both as it’s a £200 record at the most?
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What is your first record purchase of 2021?
Frankie Crocker replied to Millo's topic in Look At Your Box
Just bought the Astors - ‘Candy’ on Stax. A cheapie in mint condition. Really bought to test the new 20% scam - I switched addresses and hey presto, no levy. -
I’m inclined to agree with you. The US auctions are not throwing up much at all just lately. The bigger sellers are falling back on poorer condition stock and maybe selling UK slow-sellers on commission. Record stores in the States are closed at present so the crate diggers are not uncovering stock. Some of the best records for sale recently have been offered on Soul Source. There are at least three sellers trickling out the best items in their collections, choice items being offered to fund the purchase of a major want, and loads of low end stuff being cleared out to make room for more.
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The maladjusted market has already readjusted itself. One millionaire splashed out and the underbidder found a copy on eBay... The price is back to £350 if everybody stays calm. Tim’s auctions are a strange affair - the rarest of the rare fetch decent money but these are true rarities from Tim’s personal collection. You should monitor the bidding on Pat’s auction items and note where many of them end up. We already have one self-confessed millionaire buyer/collector/entrepreneur/ out there who can out-bid everybody. There are other folk in the music business who should be buying the rare records we are talking about if they have any sense and want to spend their millions on something enjoyable. A mate of mine is on the Sunday Times Rich List and he likes Northern...as it happens, he is not collecting at present. Not every expensive purchase is as daft as it may seem - the money’s out there but regrettably not in our hands.