Frankie Crocker
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Ah, but some of John’s records are flops, others go for the book price or market rate, whilst a few, the ones we are speculating on, go for stupidly high prices. Yes, these do contribute to rampant price inflation but remember, John's auctions have more of a global reach and way more bidders. Tim Brown’s auctions have high minimum bids so they can fetch high prices if anyone starts bidding in the first place. His copy of Sherri Taylor is at a higher price than John’s went for this week. John’s auctions are the fairest and best around despite the emergence if rogue values that we like to pontificate on. As you say, the person with the most money trumps all comers...
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But with sealed bid auctions, price inflation is rampant. It endorses the one big bid only approach, but pay a stupidly high amount. Incremental bidding encourages more measured bids and potentially less expensive records. Sealed bid auctions are for very rich bidders. Incremental bid auctions are for the masses who can not afford to pay through the nose.
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Ah but, the winner of John’s auction pays a small increment more than the second bidder. The winner of Pat’s auction may pay £2,500 more than the underbidder - now that’s great for the seller but unfortunate for the buyer.
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But the record’s wanted in more than three States... This is what happens in a sealed bid auction. Prices do not rise incrementally so the winner is the person with most money in the bank. John Manship’s auction method is by far and away the best.
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The buyer must’ve been ‘In The Mood’...
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Especially when the issue goes for £100-125...
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But given recent price surges on massive tunes, I wonder if it could have? To what extent was the buyer smitten by the LP - were they just after the single? I also wonder if the records might have made more money had they had been auctioned separately QED.
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Isonics - finished at £543 Esther Phillips -WOW Silhouettes - the 45 might have fetched this price on its own perhaps?
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How long before rare soul gets put in the skip
Frankie Crocker replied to Haighy's topic in All About the SOUL
In the words of the mighty Jack Johnson, ‘Reduce-Reuse-Recycle...’ I am pleased to offer space for the recycling skip outside my mansion. Reuse all maroon Doo-Wop records for ash trays or Christmas nut dishes etc. Reduce your future need for vinyl by buying everything you can get your hands on, while you can...got a nice pair of Willie Picketts on Eastern and Soul Spot today. -
How long before rare soul gets put in the skip
Frankie Crocker replied to Haighy's topic in All About the SOUL
Manship auctioned a copy of Tears a few weeks ago for well over £500. I can’t remember the exact figure but it was nearer £800. Nobody in their right mind would ever put this record in a skip. -
How long before rare soul gets put in the skip
Frankie Crocker replied to Haighy's topic in All About the SOUL
Soul records will be the last into the skip, and the rarest will be safely stashed away. The shortage of decent contemporary releases for the masses will encourage the more discerning youngsters to embrace vinyl. Turntables, LP’s and 60’s/70’s pop are already attracting converts - good soul 45’s will always be favoured by those seeking out the best sounds. The skip will fill up with Doo-Wop, Country, surplus chart singles that sold by the million, 80’s and 90’s picture sleeves of little interest, CD collections, just about everything apart from rare soul. Sadly, tons of Motown, Atlantic and Stax will end up in the skip as there are not enough buyers for it all. Rare soul records could last for hundreds of years if cared for properly and played on high quality turntables. -
Eleven copies on Popsike - one sold in December 2020 for $30!!! A member on Soul Source was asking for one a short while back - I hope they got that one...
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So, which side did the bidders on Samuella Williams go for? Younghearts fetched more than expected for a common classic. Otis Lee went for the going rate or thereabouts. Kenny Wells went for less than expected but you can’t win them all.
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If Dave Flynn moved back to the UK, there would be more killer collections in Australia I reckon.
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Ah, but it’s not just about the prices. Some of the final values are ludicrous for the discs in question as they are not scarce and/or lacking in quality. Many of the items are simply not auction items. Just lately, some of the records have not been in ‘tip-top’ condition - more than a few have sold for less than top dollar. Some of the records, presumably sold on commission, will have realised less than the owner was hoping for. Some of John’s hype exaggerates the merits of records up for grabs but is always worth reading. Each stupidly sky-high price distorts the market and encourages greedy sellers to up their prices. John’s weekly auction is still way more interesting than others around - that’s what prompts discussion.
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Very sad news. So glad I caught her act in the USA summer of 2019. Excellent tribute to her by music journalist Neil McCormick in today’s Daily Telegraph (10/2/21). Her contribution to music will live on forever.
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The rule is an ‘ass’ then... I bet eBay rubbed their hands together... The goods are a physical entity so can be assigned a value. The postal service is an ‘invisible’ of no value once the transfer has taken place. VAT was always a misnamed tax when it was introduced to replace Sales Tax then upped following the Poll Tax Riots; it was not reduced when Council Tax replaced the Rates Tax.
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Just another Set Sale Jack Montgomery, Bobby Garrett and a couple of others not really auction items.
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Very sad news. I enjoyed his posts on Soul-Source. Evidently one of life’s characters and a man of the people who spoke his mind.
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Valid observation Clive. Has anyone else noticed how eBay are now flying planes from hubs in the US into Germany and Switzerland. UK customers will pay overseas shipping rates expecting the US Postal Service to take care of the mail. US packets go to the hub for a local postage rate, then eBay fly the mail across the Atlantic, no doubt making further profits. No wonder eBay are so keen to charge 20% on postage as well as VAT as it’s more money for them. As Clive has pointed out, the relabelling process at the hub involves a different value being put on the ticket, something UK importers might want to think about carefully. All this seems to be independent of the Global Shipping Programme which is another rip-off in itself, and no doubt a failure of sorts that has prompted eBay to implement the the innovation currently under discussion.
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Royal Mail have been charging this fee for years, so it’s not just a recent thing. Now the Post Office has been privatised, they have become another bunch of rip-off scammers. The organisation is now run by bonus-boys who move from firm to firm getting golden handcuffs and handshakes. Ask yourselves, why does the price of a stamp go up so frequently? Want to know why there are so few post offices? Sell them off so the balance sheet looks healthy, and hey presto, up goes the bonus...
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Earl Jackson - £1,342 Charlie McCoy - £446 Theron and Darrell - £1,428 Earl Jackson has broken the sound barrier...now I’ll never own a copy. Charlie McCoy has his day in the sun. Thought the Gallahads would go for more as it’s seriously rare. No worries mate. You do a brilliant job.
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Popsike, is it still a valid guide?
Frankie Crocker replied to Andykempster's topic in Look At Your Box
About as much use as a chocolate teapot when it comes to pricing. The range of prices thrown up over a long period of time can confuse both sellers and buyers. Useful for estimating the scarcity of a particular record or the ratio of demos:issues. Interesting to analyse the bidding history to track major finds, heightened demand etc. Totally misleading to sellers who think they will achieve maximum prices for their records. Of some use in suggesting what to bid to win an auction. Like price-guide books, Popsike is of interest to us collectors but must be used with an open mind. -
Herman Lewis-Who's kissing you tonight
Frankie Crocker replied to Wheelsville1's topic in Look At Your Box
Herman lived and recorded in Cincinnati. He was still living there recently so I was able to become the proud owner of one of his Stone Blue issues via a third party. This was after Andy had met him. I had the chance to buy one of Herman’s Mercury copies but I passed on it, something I’ve had cause to regret. Herman was selling part of his record collection so I was lucky enough to acquire his blue issue of Connie Austin on King. -
Did they shrink wrap LP’s in the 60’s? The first cling film I saw on LP’s was in the late 70’s or early 80’s. Chalkie’s point about the lack of a promotional sticker is worth noting, but self-adhesive stickers were not common in the 60’s, it was all lick-‘n-stick hence so many ruined record labels. Goodway was probably a small outfit that used a small number of one-stop-shops to sell, so maybe the LP’s were stuffed by someone in a back room and the promotion done by word of mouth.