Paul-s

Totally agree, I was at Junior Walker at St Ives and saw Edwin many times. I would add Eddie Holman and Popcorn Wylie at Stafford to that.....and speeding off my nuts of course...

Perhaps, but not all....depends which line of NS you're into I guess. Also, there is a huge plethora (especially in the totally hammered Top 500), of what I can only refer to as 'Happy Clappy' NS (we can call it super 4/4 beat I guess). That stuff that people mime to week in and week out, pulling hands to hearts and raising arms to the sky: the now empty gestures of yesteryear. There are some great examples of this on Insta where some of the 'Insta(nt) Souls' dance to the 'Happy Clappy' tunes of the Top 500 in their kitchen or on a promenade, in a garden etc (usually facing camera), and fill the couple of super 4/4 minutes with these Northern Soul dance motifs that denote their 'super 4/4 Northern soulfulness'. They are, as you say, most definitely 4/4...but for for what purpose I have no idea: forgive my stammer...

The Times.....who cares what they say? Are they also curating the scene now?

Thanks for the advice...much appreciated. Entertaining for who....... I have the space and integrity to say, it is nothing to do with any Northern Soul scene i have ever been a part of. It was, for me, as Chalky said, everything i ran away from via the Northern Soul Scene. In fact my parents used to watch it! And i didn't, and dont, want to be my parents. Homogenised, sanitised, covers of NS vinyl is not my bag, thats all. And i will say that without advice from anyone. The mainstream NS scene is exactly that, mainstream, where any coverage of NS is considered good coverage by the disciples of the Top 500: be it by BBC middle class producers giving it the old 4/4, happy clappy beat, or Strictly Come prancing events or The Flying Pickets doing a musical play, or mundane, smiley self-obsessed dancers coming at me on instagram. It's as if people (many who were never really on the scene post Wigan, or at all it seems) are seeking validation via external arbitrators. Many cannot even just dance and 'get into it' without documenting themselves dancing or skipping or hopping around, posting how soulful they are online. It is, i have written before, 'historico-pastiche', a re-imagined past of Northern Soul based on spurious bits and bobs, assembled, curated perhaps, into a commercial package that is highly profitable, tame and devoid of any socio-political integrity. For me, it is everything I got into NS to escape from. Perhaps we can call this latest manifestation the 'Northern Stroll Scene'. "Just for once Paul, let it go" What a bland and flaccid statement. (just my opinion of course).

The Skys the limit I guess.......Could even extend it to Winter Holiday packages "Ski-ing In the Snow' Northern Soul weekender etc..

Yes. A good point! The people I went to nighters to escape from.......spot on I think.

https://www.warnerleisurehotels.co.uk/live-shows/nh/0/1/41/1176?gclsrc=ds&gclsrc=ds "It doesn’t matter where in the UK you hail from. If you remember hand-clapping in unison, spins, splits and backdrops, dressing in brogues, baggy trousers, vests and Fred Perry’s, wide skirts and flat shoes? If you love the dance beats and soulful sounds of hits such as ""Where Did Our Love Go”,” There’s A Ghost In My House, or ""Landslide"" then come and join us ""Out On The Floor"" on one of these lively and late festival break" Perhaps its just me, but I keep hearing 'Cashing In' ? The Proms , the homogenous representations of the scene, the idea that all coverage is good etc etc. Has the scene sold out and become a parody of its former self? Is there just an ageing populus who were never really 'on the scene'...they just went to Wigan, stopped, had kids and came back decades later and now clap at all coverage as good coverage? Are there multiple scenes that are homogenised by lazy BBC producers looking for an easy target market? Baggy trouser syndrome? Is there a Ghost in this house? Is it a commodification driven Landslide? Is the present scene everything it once railed against in order to become? I'm Interested in other perspectives.......

We must be on different scenes......im totally bemused.

The clue is in the name Frank 'Pop'... A 4/4 beat does not make it Northern Soul (these bands rarely go MoDo on you)...for me the genre expresses greater complexity and nuance than these outfits that present a facade, via a clumsy beat and glossy smiles. To me, the lack of depth is glaringly audible and obvious, its a visceral felling: or lack of... (only my very humble opinion of course).

Parody, tragedy, tribute, circus, pop, a bit of a laugh, Butlins at the weekend, Blues Brothers type thing.. But, nothing to do with Northern Soul except that the songs they cover have the same titles as some actual 'Northern Soul' songs. (Just my humble opinion, based on what i hear)

dearie me....

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To my humble ears ...they all sound soul-less and nothing to do with the scene or soul I connect(ed) with. Like Italia Conte trained musical theatre school stuff...... If they truly admired the music they cover, they wouldn't try covering it in the first place: realising that they fall very short of the original. I think it takes a lot of ego to attempt it. But, each to their own. Its just a different scene i think. I kind of soul in the sun, retired, Lost Summer Love, Interplay, historico-pastiche type thing. Just dont confuse it with Northern Soul.

amongst other things

Storming LP only track An old play (A Greg Belson play too).

One of my old plays.

Sad Little Girl

Absolutely terrible....