Chris Turnbull

Have you seen it before Pete? Any idea where from?

At the risk of starting the whole 'Wigan footage' thing again, where does the film above come from (assuming it is Wigan?) - This England outtakes? Looks less grainy than that footage and don't remember seeing it before

Just to say I love this record - his voice, the strings, the backing vocals, the lyrics, the production - one of my absolute faves I offload records all the time to make room for more, but would never part with this one Sorry, no idea who The Phantom is though!

Didn't realise this had been booted - how do you tell?

Did Kitch also play George Pepp before Butch?

Seem to recall there were quite a few around for c. £50 when it first started to get plays - wish I had bought one Butch had it covered up as Little Beaver around 1991

Have always loved to hear Butch out and about - somehow (with no disrespect to other DJ's) always the high point of any night Off the top of my head my personal Butch top plays over the years:- Lonette - Blue Jeans (M-S) Liz Verdi - Think it over and be sure (Columbia) Diane Lewis - You ain't got a chance Jesse James - Love is all right Jean Carter - I wanna know (Decca) Paul Thompson - Special kind of woman (Volt) Jean Wells - With my love and what you've got Just Bros - Go on and laugh Patrinell Staten - Little love affair (Sepia) George Pepp - The feeling is real (Coleman) Timmie Williams - Competition (Mala) Jimmy Bo Horne - Just can't speak (Dade) For me as per above list he has always played a great mix of exclusives (Just Bros, Jean Wells, Diane Lewis, etc) and other known rarities that have become 'Butch' records over time (Patrinell Staten, Paul Thompson, Timmie Williams, etc). Also love the way he sometimes throws in an Al Gardner 'Sweet Baby' or a Joe Hicks 'Don't it make you feel funky' just for the hell of it NB. anyone know much about Diane Lewis c/u? Have heard it on the internet and always seems much slower than Butch played it i.e. must have had it pitched up a few notches

Excellent interview with Butch from Manifesto Issue 25 (Dec 1999) answers a lot of questions - have tried to upload here as a PDF - hope it works. Butch Manifesto Article.pdf

Fair enough then - have probably priced about right

In fact can't find any evidence that there has even been a lookalike reissue of this! NB. there is one on Ebay at £250, same as mine but M-. 14 days left and 10 watchers - now making me think I have underpriced!! If anyone wants to offer more than £120 feel free!!

Thanks for that - I did offer it but he wanted a minter so I thought I'd put it on here instead I have just been asked if it is a 100% original - I certainly thought it was and bought it as an original but how do you tell - anyone know? It looks like one to me - I have had it since the early 1990's when it was first popular and don't remember there being a lookalike reissue around that time. NB. in fact I described it incorrectly as a 'black type' issue but in fact it is like the one on the Youtube clip with red writing on a black oval shape. The runout groove says TTS 01504 STXS-0817-1 SS-01462 -L NIX if that means anything. Help appreciated!

Thanks for looking - PM if interested Postage £2.30 1st class recorded or £6.50 special delivery Youtube clip provided for reference only - not my copy Reasonable offers considered Paypal as gift Will refund in full within 7 days if not happy Sandra Wright - Midnight Affair / Wounded Woman (Truth) VG+ 120 'Black type' issue. Quite a few light marks under a strong light but plays great. Very slight ringwear to label on 'Midnight' side. Cheers, Chris.

Thanks for looking - PM if interested Postage £2.30 1st class recorded or £6.50 special delivery Youtube clips provided for reference only - not my copies Reasonable offers considered Paypal as gift Will refund in full within 7 days if not 100% satisfied 1) Melvin Davis - You made me over (Invictus) VG+ 75 A few light marks (more so on flip 'I'm worried') but NAP - plays loud and clear - sublime 70's 2) Skull Snaps - Didn't I do it to you (GSF DJ) M- 95 Stereo both sides - killer crossover in lovely condition and with nice clean GSF bag 3) Collette Kelly - City of fools (Volt) Ex 50 Ace quirky crossover dancer 4) George Wydell - From out of nowhere / I'm gonna cut you loose (Tangerine WD) VG+ 100 Two fantastic sides. Comes in nice clean ABC Paramount bag. Couple of light scratches on top side NAP, otherwise nice shiny vinyl. Clean white label apart from two biro crosses on flip. 5) Kim Weston - A thrill a moment (Gordy) G but plays VG 15 Looks like a bus has run over it but plays pretty well - did me fine for a while until I got a better one Cheers, Chris.

For me First Taste of Hurt sits alongside a number of other high end crossover items that all seemed to take off around the same time c. 1993/4 i.e. George Hughley 'That's why I cry', Richard Caiton 'I like to get near you', Milton Parker 'Women like it harder', Chuck Cockerham 'Have I got a right', Lashawn Collins 'What you gonna do'. IMO I would trace it back to Rod Dearlove Voices / Canal Tavern, then probably 'across the board' venues like Pitches, plus 100 Club where Mick Smith was playing George Hughley for example. Also Richard Searling was playing FTOH plus numerous others of these on his Sunset Radio show around that time plus at early Cleethorpes w/enders so probably had a hand too Got my FTOH from John Powney in 1994 for £40, which was an unheard of sum from JP - worth every penny though!

Funnily enough have just sold Clay Hunt for the other side 'In the City Square' which I don't remember ever playing - almost wishing I'd kept it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAWsZpCt5AM

Thanks for looking - PM if interested Postage £2.30 1st class recorded or £6.50 special delivery Youtube clips provided for reference only - not my copies Reasonable offers considered Paypal as gift 1) George Wydell - From out of nowhere / I'm gonna cut you loose (Tangerine WD) VG+ 130 Two fantastic sides Comes in nice clean ABC Paramount bag Couple of light scratches on top side NAP, otherwise nice shiny vinyl Clean white label apart from two biro crosses on flip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyUMi1a-BtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDFMVC_nhko 2) The Creations - Just remember me (Globe) Ex 50 Top side label has small fingernail scratch to right of title, otherwise very clean Lovely dancer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O87CX53a06A 3) Louise Murray - The love I give (Verve DJ) VG+ 30 Stormer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRUSvgPANnw 4) Jackey Beavers - Lover come back (SS7) VG+ 25 Quite a few light scuffs but plays very cleanly other than a few very light pops here and there. Slight label fade and faint date written on both sides Bargain 'Crossover soul for the troops' as Bob Hinsley once said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deS-MnPNZpU 5) Melinda Marx - It happens in the same old way (Vee Jay Black Issue) Ex 30 Superb mid tempo blue eyed soul Flip is her version of 'What' London spins for top side according to recent SS article! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kLeBESvpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-zFvsEbHo 6) Clay Hunt - Since I've lost you (Kapp) VG+ 30 Fairly scuffed looking copy but plays very cleanly Top notch fingersnapper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcta1p7VGI 7) The Marriotts - Tell it like it is (ABC) Ex 30 Killer mid tempo, old Terry Jones spin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M_xQXuw52U 8) The Fiestas - Sometimes Storm (Respect) Ex 15 Quality 70's mover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxRZOfmzDKo Cheers, Chris

Really enjoyed watching these clips - thanks for uploading Anyone got similar home video footage of Stafford or Morecambe? Would love to see that too

Thanks for looking - please pm if interested Postage £2.30 first class recorded / £6.30 special delivery if required Paypal as gift Happy to refund within 7 days if not 100% satisfied Youtube links for reference only (not my copies) 1) Poor Boy & The Orphans - I Know She Loves Me (Butch's Thang) VG+ 100 Nice clean labels apart from slight fade to type on top side and very small stain on flip Vinyl looks a bit scruffy but plays very cleanly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZVV_odKnwA 2) Melinda Marx - it Happens In The Same Old Way (Black Vee Jay Issue) Ex 30 Great girly beat ballad Flip is her version of 'What' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JT7GFOxi2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-zFvsEbHo 3) Barbara Middleton - Come On Back To Me (TRC) VG+ 75 Lovely! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmGVnTmWSu8 4) Jerry Jackson - Wide Awake In A Dream (Kapp DJ) VG+ 100 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2zZDPziSdA 5) The Sensations _ I Won't Be Hurt (Way Out) Ex 20 Top class group soul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pez4XA6fCZk 6) Betty Harris - Mean Man (Sansu WD) VG+ 25 c/w What'd I do wrong Two pen crosses and Y/1 written on top side label https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rob2A1O-CsY 7) Betty Everett - I've Got A Claim On You (One-der-ful) VG+ 20 Vinyl and label fairly scruffy looking more like VG but plays very cleanly Great dirty R&B dancer - check the sax break! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGmNXPyhET8 8) Johnny Nash - Moment of Weakness / Don't Take Away Your Love (WB) VG+ 20 Lovely beat ballad double sider in clean company sleeve. Few light marks but plays very cleanly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktbvfkwUA8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKSDGBvoHt4 9) Tony Owens - This Heart Can't Take No More (Soul Sound) Ex 15 Builder - play loud! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kb4C4hLEmc 10) Margie Evans - You're Doing It (United Artists) M- 10 Underrated 70's dancer, great stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl36djdouIQ Cheers, Chris.

Not forgetting some really interesting ones posted on here previously by Derek Pearson i.e.

Love this thread and would really like to see more of these photos, being too young to have gone to Wigan myself NB. surprised no-one has mentioned Francesco Mellina's Wigan photos which were apparently shown at a do at the Wigan cafe / shopping centre (whatever it is) a few years ago - see link below for a few of them https://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/content/image_galleries/russ_gallery.shtml?10 I emailed Francesco about them ages ago and he said he has several hundred, including one of the dance comp / piano like the one here - interestingly he said they were all of the Sept '81 Wigan last night so is that what these are too?? Maybe he remembered it wrong. Said happy to publish them if anyone willing to pay but otherwise they are just in storage - fantastic quality though

Thanks for looking - please pm if interested Postage £2.30 1st class recorded or £6.30 special delivery if required Happy to refund within 7 days if not completely satisfied Youtube links for reference only (not my copies) 1) Ike & Tina Turner - Wake Up (Sue) Ex 20 R&B Stormer, quite hard to find. Remember this from Droylesden niters early 90's - highly recommended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFgjj74oig 2) Jimmy McCracklin - Steppin' up in class (Imperial) VG+ 10 Classy R&B, Fats Domino style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flkIm6NoTGE 3) Freddie Hughes - My baby came back (Wee) Ex, maybe M- 15 Great uptempo dancer, on a well known dealer's list this morning for £45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWSEz4hwdJ8 4) Leon Haywood - Ain't No Use (Fat Fish) VG visual, plays more like Ex 10 What a voice, and cool label!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a4sandvhTs 5) The Auditions - Get set, be ready (Freckles) VG+ Ace early 70's local label Chicago garage style stormer A bit crackly to start with and sound drops out for a split second but settles down and plays great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcKyEgT5Q5E 6) Gene Chandler - Here come the tears (Constellation) Ex 10 Superb beat ballad, highly recommended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPLQdF5RkI 7) Joshie Jo Armstead - Stumblin' blocks, Steppin' stones (The Gospel Truth) Ex 10 Quality crossover, again what a voice Very slight wear to label next to hole on both sides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJNUKlswmQ 8) (Screamin') Jimmy Churchwell - Can I have me some you (Ware WD) VG+ 10 Blinding deep soul Can't find a youtube clip so have borrowed one from a current US ebay listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCREAMIN-JIMMY-CHURCHWELL-Can-I-Have-Me-Some-You-NORTHERN-BLUES-SOUL-R-B-45-RPM-/261182750947?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3ccfb480e3 Cheers, Chris.

Thanks for looking - please pm if interested £2.20 1st class recorded or £6.50 special delivery if required All with Youtube clips for reference (not my copies) 1) Henry Richardson - Dancing Girl / She Loves to Party (Elois) Ex £22 Exquisite mid tempo mover with great flip, don't see this too often now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBy5vn_pocg 2) Herman H. Harper II - Headed for the Streets (Loadstone) VG+ £12 Underrated 70's dancer, like a cross between Melvin Moore and Chuck Cissell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jAraDHRUM 3) Mike & The Censations - Don't Mess With Me / There is nothing I can do about it (Highland) VG+ £12 Great 6T's dancer with ace ballad flip Small sticker on flip side label https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVSQfovgwo 4) The Metros - The Replacer (RCA WD) VG (quite a few light marks but plays very cleanly) £12 Bargain! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1egNgeIQ8 5) Carl Hall - My Baby's So Good (Mercury) VG+ (quite a few light marks but NAP, plays very cleanly) £50 His best on Mercury IMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7H2hi_UrgI 6) Betty Harris - Mean Man / What Did I Do Wrong (Sansu WD) £30 In demand funky dancer with awesome deep / crossover flip, quite hard to find Top side VG+/ flip probably VG to look at but both play great Some WOL on Mean Man side (X, X and '4/1') https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV1C4gOo3mc Sorry about the Ruud Gullit photo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqDKjReZ0zo 7) Fontella Bass - Honey Bee (Bobbin) VG+ £25 A bit of light static but plays great. Highly recommended lilting R&B dancer, quite hard to find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LAqpjKWMMc Cheers, Chris.

Always liked Goldmine's Allnighter series (1-5), especially 1 which is a fantastic selection - Nolan Porter 'If I could', Kenny Wells 'Isn't it just a shame', George Freeman 'Down and out', Jimmy 'Bo' Horne 'Just can't speak', etc - really a top class CD

Sent you a PM Cheers, Chris.

Talking of Motown, always loved the drum sound on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhwrSTWAHV8