When you say north of Watford GAP, is this what you mean, or do you mean Watford? There is a difference and it's about 50 miles. The Watford Gap, so named after the village of Watford, Northants, and the gap in the Northamptonshire Uplands. The other Watford is a big town just north of London, Herts. If you DO mean the Watford Gap, then I live 1 mile north of the Gap, if you draw a line across the country, in Irthlingborough. I am therefore, a hard as nails whippet owning pidgeon fancier, where as Glyn -W, Lisa Vanner and Bazbond, 2miles down the A6 in Rushden are Soft southern shandy drinking bed wetters. The north/south thing is pertinent to N. Soul so I don't consider this off topic...off tangent maybe..........